Bargain Makarov's??
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Apparently both the military/police models and the commercial model are available. Most buyers (or at least those who post on these boards) prefer the military/police model. My experience has been only with the military/police models but I have never experienced any malfunction of any sort in over 2000 rounds through six pistols. I think these pistols would be a bargain at $200.
KelBench400
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SOG?
How can you order from SOG? Do you have to be and FFL or can you set up a transfer like you do when you order from gunbroker or auctionarms?
Thanks,
Kel
How can you order from SOG? Do you have to be and FFL or can you set up a transfer like you do when you order from gunbroker or auctionarms?
Thanks,
Kel
glockorama
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Anyone know if these are C&R eligible? They have CZ-52's, which are C&R, but they don't state that in the ad.
Went to the Manchester, NH gunshow this weekend - here's a report on the Maks I saw for sale:
1. Russian with adj. sights, nice shape - $225
2. A nice Bulgarian milsurp - $175
3. Two other Bulgie milsurps - $150 - but these were so crudded up with cosmoline that their actions would not work. Also, on these two import stamps were very, very poorly done. Looked terrible.
I was looking for an E. German Mak but none to be found.
Owen
1. Russian with adj. sights, nice shape - $225
2. A nice Bulgarian milsurp - $175
3. Two other Bulgie milsurps - $150 - but these were so crudded up with cosmoline that their actions would not work. Also, on these two import stamps were very, very poorly done. Looked terrible.
I was looking for an E. German Mak but none to be found.
Owen
Great price
3. Two other Bulgie milsurps - $150 - but these were so crudded up with cosmoline that their actions would not work. Also, on these two import stamps were very, very poorly done. Looked terrible.
All you need to turn these into gems is a little kerosene and some elbow grease. Take it apart, leave it in kerosene overnight, and clean it up. They're the real deal because they're the unissued police/military Mak. Why is the import stamp important?
The commercial Bulgies, the Miltex with sprayed on finish, don't have the same quality blueing as the police/military Bulgies. $150 isn't a bad price at all for an unissued Bulgie.
3. Two other Bulgie milsurps - $150 - but these were so crudded up with cosmoline that their actions would not work. Also, on these two import stamps were very, very poorly done. Looked terrible.
All you need to turn these into gems is a little kerosene and some elbow grease. Take it apart, leave it in kerosene overnight, and clean it up. They're the real deal because they're the unissued police/military Mak. Why is the import stamp important?
The commercial Bulgies, the Miltex with sprayed on finish, don't have the same quality blueing as the police/military Bulgies. $150 isn't a bad price at all for an unissued Bulgie.
>All you need to turn these into gems is a little kerosene and >some elbow grease. Take it apart, leave it in kerosene >overnight, and clean it up.
Indeed. Personally, I prefer mineral spirits as opposed to kerosene but either works. Soaking overnight helps but there still is a fair amount of cleaning to do to get *all* the cosmo out. It's been in there since, maybe, 1972 and it's hard, really hard.
>Why is the import stamp important?
As far as function? Not important at all, never said it was. I just think it's too bad that the importer had to mess up the appearance of what was a well-finished pistol with careless, shoddy work.
and I don't think that $150 was a great price, fair but not great. Now $125 would indeed have been a great price and I might have picked up my second milsurp Bulgie for that.
Owen
Indeed. Personally, I prefer mineral spirits as opposed to kerosene but either works. Soaking overnight helps but there still is a fair amount of cleaning to do to get *all* the cosmo out. It's been in there since, maybe, 1972 and it's hard, really hard.
>Why is the import stamp important?
As far as function? Not important at all, never said it was. I just think it's too bad that the importer had to mess up the appearance of what was a well-finished pistol with careless, shoddy work.
and I don't think that $150 was a great price, fair but not great. Now $125 would indeed have been a great price and I might have picked up my second milsurp Bulgie for that.
Owen
I agree, $125 would have been a good price, and even at that, the dealer is making 25%. My local dealer usually only makes 10%.
Any of you that got stuck with one of these Russian commercial models with the bad adjustable sights can just send them to me. I would hate to see you suffer anymore and am willing to martyr myself for the cause.
Any of you that got stuck with one of these Russian commercial models with the bad adjustable sights can just send them to me. I would hate to see you suffer anymore and am willing to martyr myself for the cause.
Don't be concerned with Miltex quality
Gino:
No need to be concerned with the quality of the Miltex pistols, as they're actually Arsenal manufactured Maks --- Miltex was the U.S. importer. If you go to Makarov.com, you'll find that Miltex owners generally love their pistols. With the exception of my current carry Mak (an Arsenal commercial version which has had quite a bit of customization done to it), my Miltex Special Edition is the most accurate and reliable of the fifteen or so Maks I own/have owned. Lot's of owners report the same results.
The bottom line is that when it comes to reliability, virtually any Mak is a good Mak. $99 for either a Bulgarian milsurp or an Arsenal commercial Mak is a downright steal.
Take care. Marko
Gino:
No need to be concerned with the quality of the Miltex pistols, as they're actually Arsenal manufactured Maks --- Miltex was the U.S. importer. If you go to Makarov.com, you'll find that Miltex owners generally love their pistols. With the exception of my current carry Mak (an Arsenal commercial version which has had quite a bit of customization done to it), my Miltex Special Edition is the most accurate and reliable of the fifteen or so Maks I own/have owned. Lot's of owners report the same results.
The bottom line is that when it comes to reliability, virtually any Mak is a good Mak. $99 for either a Bulgarian milsurp or an Arsenal commercial Mak is a downright steal.
Take care. Marko
Agreed
Yes, the PW Arms stamp is pretty bad, but just pretend it's not there.
$150 for a NIB unissued Bulgie at a show is pretty good. You can get them for less on the web but you need to pay shipping and FFL fees. When you add that up you're at $150 or more.
Unissued Bulgies are getting harder to get, especially if they come with the two matching mags. I kick myself for not getting them when they were going for $120 at shows.
Yes, the PW Arms stamp is pretty bad, but just pretend it's not there.
$150 for a NIB unissued Bulgie at a show is pretty good. You can get them for less on the web but you need to pay shipping and FFL fees. When you add that up you're at $150 or more.
Unissued Bulgies are getting harder to get, especially if they come with the two matching mags. I kick myself for not getting them when they were going for $120 at shows.