Ban on .50 Cal? Does that mean I can't get a S&W 500?

jesse2005

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I live in Illinois, and there are quite a few gun-related bills being debated in Springfield this year. One running theme is a ban on .50 caliber weapons (among the "assault" weapons ban proposals). Does this mean I should stop eyeing that Smith & Wesson model 500? I'd hate to drop a load of cash on a beautiful revolver, just to have to hand over to the police.

Anyone have any comments on this (maybe I am misunderstanding something here)?
 
There are very few weapons, that once the law is passed that have to be turned in. REGISTERED PERHAPS, but turned in? We don't live in Australia or England and as of yet, don't have their restrictions on owning firearms.

SO, if they are talking about banning .50 cal stuff, GO GET that S&W and either LOTS of ammo or a good set of reloading dies. That way you can make your own bullets (out of wheel lead and some tin - antimony?), powder should still be available, brass and primers. THOUGH brass MAY become a problem in the long run, so stocking up on it isn't a bad idea either.

Though I've had a buddy of mine actually shoot the S&W 500 and he said he'd rather shoot a fully loaded hot loaded .454 Casull than suffer the recoil another time from a S&W 500.
 
IF they are telling you to turn in PRIVATE PROPERTY WITHOUT COMPENSATION, then whatever state is considering this is going to have BIG COMPLIANCE PROBLEMS.

Worse than they are experiencing in Canada... Or Kali...
 
Here it is:

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=134421

25 (5) "50 caliber cartridge" means a cartridge in 50
26 caliber, either by designation or actual measurement,
27 including but not limited to a .50 BMG cartridge, that is
28 capable of being fired from a centerfire rifle. The term
29 "50 caliber cartridge" does not include any memorabilia or
30 display item that is filled with a permanent inert
31 substance or that is otherwise permanently altered in a
32 manner that prevents ready modification for use as live
33 ammunition.
34 (b) Except as provided in subsection (d), 90 days after the

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1 effective date of this amendatory Act of the 94th General
2 Assembly, it is unlawful for any person within this State, to
3 knowingly manufacture, deliver, sell, purchase, or possess or
4 cause to be manufactured, delivered, sold, purchased, or
5 possessed, a semiautomatic assault weapon, an assault weapon
6 attachment, or any 50 caliber rifle.
7 (c) Any person who knowingly possesses a semiautomatic
8 assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, or any 50 caliber
9 rifle must, within 90 days after the effective date of this
10 amendatory Act of the 94th General Assembly, destroy the weapon
11 or attachment, render it permanently inoperable, relinquish it
12 to a law enforcement agency, or remove it from this State.


"50 caliber cartridge" means a cartridge in 50
26 caliber, either by designation or actual measurement,
27 including but not limited to a .50 BMG cartridge, that is
28 capable of being fired from a centerfire rifle.

So if there is a rifle chambered for the 500 (I dunno if there is?), it looks verboten.

(c) Any person who knowingly possesses a semiautomatic
8 assault weapon, assault weapon attachment, or any 50 caliber
9 rifle must, within 90 days after the effective date of this
10 amendatory Act of the 94th General Assembly, destroy the weapon
11 or attachment, render it permanently inoperable, relinquish it
12 to a law enforcement agency, or remove it from this State.

...

29 (1) A person who manufactures, possesses, or delivers a
30 semiautomatic assault weapon in violation of this Section
31 commits a Class 3 felony for a first violation and a Class
32 2 felony for a second or subsequent violation or for the
33 possession or delivery of 2 or more of these weapons at the
34 same time.

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1 (2) A person who possesses or delivers in violation of
2 this Section an assault weapon attachment commits a Class 4
3 felony for a first violation and a Class 3 felony for a
4 second or subsequent violation.
5 (3) A person who manufactures, possesses, or delivers
6 in violation of this Section a 50 caliber rifle commits a
7 Class 4 felony.


Yep. Confiscation/destruction/removal is mandatory. Instant Class 4 Felon (whatever that is) for noncompliance. Then again, it does say rifle.
 
Pretty strong legislation..... it does say "rifle" and not handgun. I understand that there are similar bills being considered in other states. The problem is that the normal person does not have any desire to purchase or own a 50 Cal rifle or handgun, and hence don't care about the legislation. It is much like the way that campaigns are conducted... the candidates campaign in the heavily populated areas and choose to dismiss the impact of the areas containing the lower population densities (rural) or groups that they believe will have no impact in the election. Hence, this bill feeds on the likely majority views and discriminates against the view of a minority who would or want to own firearms in 50 caliber.
 
Doesn't it depend on the state? If big bore elephant guns are allowed (by the feds) then why shouldn't a wildcat bigger than .50 caliber be allowed? (seriously asking here and would really like to know)
 
I have said on a number of forums that I would fight anti-gun BULL**** in IL.until the end. Well if this bill passes I am leaving the state I was born, raised and had my own children in. Because it is THE END. My taxes will be paid to a state that allows it's citizens some freedom! Indiana here I come!
 
I know it is a great state. Living just 15 miles from the border and working as a graphics artist in Indiana it will not be a big leap for me to move. My kids will hate it because of changing schools, but i the long run I hope it will be better for them and me. I just hate the thought of being forced out of a place I love due to Chicago politics!
 
Daniel: yeah, it's a nice piece. But do you REALLY want to buy a rifle from a guy that wears pink high heels? :P

For those who don't understand that, PM me and I'll email pics and the story...
 
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