Balto Maryland: "With looks that can kill, BB guns banned for youths"

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Who knew there was a "federal Toy Gun Law passed in 1988"?

http://www.sunspot.net/news/local/c...ec21,0,6282421.story?coll=bal-local-headlines

With looks that can kill, BB guns banned for youths
Fed up with realistic toys, city officials OK measure

By Laura Vozzella
Sun Staff
Originally published December 21, 2002

The BB gun, like the classic Red Ryder celebrated in a popular holiday film, is a traditional Christmas gift that has always come wrapped in a certain risk. Now the toy carries a threat that has nothing to do with putting an eye out: a $500 fine and two months in jail.

It is a misdemeanor in Baltimore to sell or give a BB gun to anyone younger than 18, under an ordinance adopted by the City Council this month.

In one of America's most murderous cities, where juvenile homicides are up 50 percent this year compared with last, officials are fed up with toy guns that look like the real thing.

"We're dealing with a different element now," Council President Sheila Dixon said. "If you give it to a minor and we trace it back, that person will be fined or charged with a crime."

Forget the romance of the Red Ryder, the wooden-stock BB rifle designed in 1938 and portrayed as a boy's to-die-for holiday gift in the 1983 movie, A Christmas Story. Some of the most popular BB guns these days don't resemble the long guns of the Wild West, but the semiautomatic pistols packed by street thugs.

And instead of playing with the guns - taking target practice at Coke bottles or, at worst, terrorizing squirrels - some Baltimoreans are using them to prey on people, police say.

City police do not track how often BB guns are used to commit crimes, but say they're turning up more often in the hands of offenders. The toys are much easier to obtain than real weapons, police say, and won't result in gun charges in the event of an arrest.

Two 15-year-olds - one armed with a BB gun, the other with a knife - robbed and stabbed Wendell P. Rawlings last month outside the home of his sister, City Council Vice President Stephanie C. Rawlings Blake.

"Unfortunately our youth ... aren't using them for recreation," Rawlings Blake said.

Gun-rights advocates say the city has bigger problems than BBs. They point to recent high-profile crimes - a police officer gunned down last month, apparently for testifying in a criminal case; a family of seven wiped out in an October fire that police believe was set to punish them for reporting neighborhood drug-dealing - and call a crackdown on toys silly.

"They've been whacking witnesses and intimidating people. It's as bad as Chicago ever was," said Roy Tarbutton, legislative vice president for the Maryland State Rifle and Pistol Association Inc. "They can keep doing all the feel-good stuff they want to do. They're not addressing the problems.

"They can't control the drugs; they can't control the guns on the streets," he said. "Anybody who's going to obey the [BB gun] law is not the person who's the problem. ... Why keep hammering law-abiding citizens? Let's enforce the laws we've got."

A 1990 U.S. Department of Justice study of the criminal use of toy guns - believed to be the first and last of its kind - found the number of robberies and assaults committed with toy, replica and pneumatic guns rose 75 percent between 1985 and 1988. The study was based on a survey of about 150 law enforcement agencies.

The surge seemed partly attributed to better reporting by agencies, according to the director of the study, David L. Carter, a criminal justice professor at Michigan State University. But he said toys and police were tangling more and more, often with tragic results for officer and BB gunman alike.

"We interviewed a number of officers who were involved in these shootings," Carter said in an interview last week. "They just couldn't come to grips with it, they couldn't cope with it. ... It destroyed his or her life once they discovered they had shot and killed a person and that person just had a toy gun."

What makes the toys dangerous is precisely what makes them appealing to wannabe gunslingers: They're dead ringers for the real thing.

"You should see some of these guns. The slide works; the magazine comes out," said Baltimore police Col. Robert Stanton, chief of detectives.

Stanton had a "Winchester-looking air gun" as a child growing up on suburban Long Island, but he shakes his head at toys like the pellet gun he displayed at a recent meeting of police officials.

"It looked so much like a Glock 17, when I put it on the table to show the commanders, a couple of them wouldn't pick it up because they thought it was a real gun," he said. "It can be really frightening.

"We just had a homicide in the Western District where the robber wielded a BB gun and the victim in the robbery produced a real gun and shot him dead," he said. "They do look real, and in the dark and in the moment, with the element of fear involved, you don't really have time to discern."

The online catalog for Daisy Outdoor Products of Rogers, Ark., a leading BB gun maker, boasts of the "contemporary styling" of its pistols. "Looks like the real thing," it reads.

The Daisy catalog also includes a warning that BB guns should not be considered toys and should be used only under adult supervision.

Joe Murfin, director of marketing for Daisy, declined to comment on Baltimore's ordinance, except to note that Daisy requires mail-order customers to provide an affidavit certifying they are at least 21 years old.

It is not clear if mail-order companies that ship BB guns to city juveniles could be penalized under the measure, city officials said. Stores outside Baltimore that sell to underage city residents are not affected.

Council members had set out to outlaw possession of BB guns, air rifles and air guns by anyone in the city, regardless of age. But they found out that such a broad ban would run afoul of the federal Toy Gun Law passed in 1988.

But some wish they could ban the guns altogether. Councilman Kwame Osayaba Abayomi, chairman of the public safety subcommittee, said the guns have no place "in a city like Baltimore."

Even some opposed to the ordinance acknowledge that the city's crime casts a shadow on innocent gun activities.

Tarbutton, of the Maryland State Rifle and Pistol Association, grew up in south Baltimore and in the early 1960s was a member of Polytechnic Institute's now-defunct high school rifle team.

"I used to carry a cased rifle on the bus, keep it in my locker," said Tarbutton, 58. "Today I'd go to prison for doing the same thing."
 
"It looked so much like a Glock 17, when I put it on the table to show the commanders, a couple of them wouldn't pick it up because they thought it was a real gun,"

What the *** is that? Police commanders are afraid to pick up a BB pistol because it looked like a real pistol? Was there any report of soiled drawers at this event?

It would be a mighty chilly day in the netherworld before I would rely on such folks to protect me and mine.
 
Yet another example of the government overstepping its bounds . It's a shame and outrage that so many politicians believe they have the right to infringe on their constituients rights in the name of " the common good " .
 
"We just had a homicide in the Western District where the robber wielded a BB gun and the victim in the robbery produced a real gun and shot him dead," he said. "They do look real, and in the dark and in the moment, with the element of fear involved, you don't really have time to discern."
So the fault falls to the BB gun rather than the perp who chose to brandish it as though it were a real firearm while in the commission of a felony.

Typical anti-firearm idiocy.

I would feel no remorse at killing someone in a similar situation. He placed himself in that position, not me.
 
I'm with Dark on this one...

I just watched a show on CSPAN talking about the outlawing of BB guns or similar measures.
Clearly divided....callers that called for outright ban
and callers that stated parents should teach their kids in use of
anything, including firearms.
 
So this is what it comes down to in this country? People are getting robbed, murdered, and raped as we speak but BB guns are the culprit. These liberal fascists are grasping at whatever they can. You would think that after 9/11 that people would wake up. What the heck is wrong with these people? They would make Stalin proud I tell you that.
 
I was gonna take a crack at the hoplophobic cops, but Dark Avenger beat me to it.

Do any of the LEOs on this forum actually have officers on their force that are afraid of guns? It seems ludicrous, but then it IS in Maryland (not that I have room to talk as a Californian).
 
We just had a homicide in the Western District where the robber wielded a BB gun and the victim in the robbery produced a real gun and shot him dead.
And the problem with this is, what, exactly?????
 
I'm glad this law prevented last week's shooting of a homeless man by two teens with a bb gun.

Oh, and since a city council member was hurt.......we must punish the citizenry as a whole...... :barf:

Sorry, I know this is an old thread, but sometimes these pathetic tramplings of rights need to be revisited to stir the anger a little....
 
BTW, airguns, CO2 guns, etc., are all classified as firearms here in VA, at least for purposes of come (obviously not all) ordinances.

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For the sake of the movie "Christmas Story" it's a good thing Hammond is in Indiana, not Maryland. :D

I like the part where Chief Wiggum is all broken up over a mope with a luftpistole was justifiably shot dead in the haid by a good guy. :rolleyes:

Gee, Clancy, I'll bet the good people of Baltimore, including a vast number of your po-po were celebrating. :D Maybe Wiggum should sponsor a law REQUIRING all criminals to use luftwaffen. I'll stick to my firearms, Chief, go have another donut. :D
 
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We just had a homicide in the Western District where the robber wielded a BB gun and the victim in the robbery produced a real gun and shot him dead.

And the problem with this is, what, exactly?????


:D
 
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