Ballistic Fingerprinting Poll - We're Losing!
- Thread starter B Shipley
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Come on people, vote. The media will never change it's mind if we don't make our agenda clear and then support that agenda to the fullest. The grabbers are fighting a war of pinpricks, so we must as well. Every little bit can help
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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
What hits me here is the evil genius of these antis - or maybe it's just their superb propaganda techniques.
Notice how they've once again set the agenda to fool the non-gunners - "Ballistic Fingerprinting". Everybody knows that human fingerprints are unique, so why not do the same with guns? Nobody yet has pointed out, at least that I've been able to read, the point that human fingerprints rarely change by them selves whereas wear and tear on guns makes this approach useless.
We need people to do tests to validate this so we at least have some facts for the fence-sitters.
In the meantime, I sure as hell like to know who coined this phrase and where he was schooled.
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
Notice how they've once again set the agenda to fool the non-gunners - "Ballistic Fingerprinting". Everybody knows that human fingerprints are unique, so why not do the same with guns? Nobody yet has pointed out, at least that I've been able to read, the point that human fingerprints rarely change by them selves whereas wear and tear on guns makes this approach useless.
We need people to do tests to validate this so we at least have some facts for the fence-sitters.
In the meantime, I sure as hell like to know who coined this phrase and where he was schooled.
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The New World Order has a Third Reich odor.
And how many fellas have been wrongly convicted because the DNA tests showed they were the ones??
Now the DNA testing made then show that there were flaws in the procedures. And the wrongly convicted have been reappointed with appeals Courts.
Questionable doubt about ballistic fingerprinting. Considering all I have to do is hand lap the barrel to improve it's performance, and accuracy. And in the process, I alter the fingerspint(mugshot) of the evil barrel. That mugshot no longer applies to my firearm.
NEXT
Now the DNA testing made then show that there were flaws in the procedures. And the wrongly convicted have been reappointed with appeals Courts.
Questionable doubt about ballistic fingerprinting. Considering all I have to do is hand lap the barrel to improve it's performance, and accuracy. And in the process, I alter the fingerspint(mugshot) of the evil barrel. That mugshot no longer applies to my firearm.
NEXT
Come on, guys, this is a "who cares" issue. If they believe this stuff works then we can get away with anything. "Wasn't me, Officer. Check my gun's fingerprints!" If you can't change every one of these "fingerprints"; barrel, firing pin, extractor and breeceface; in thirty seconds with a piece of emory cloth and a needle file you don't belong in the gun culture! All of these points are changed in every gun I own nearly every time I clean them.
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Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club
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[This message has been edited by TexasVet (edited August 06, 2000).]
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Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club
68-70
[This message has been edited by TexasVet (edited August 06, 2000).]
WE know it doesn't work, but they don't know that. The hype war is being waged by the antis, and we must strike down even things they propose that would hypothetically create a privacy issue. So much of their method is keep throwing absurdities at us and we let them pass and eventually an absurdity will slip by that has some real teeth to it somewhere in it's wording. In politics, as long as you stay within reasonable ethics and legality, there is no such thing as limited warfare. It takes fighting public misperception and the FUD factor as much as possible to win this matter. If we have to counter-play the public, in order to just get them to listen so that we can begin to turn them with real arguments, we stand a chance. The antis have only the means to create hype. We can create hype and then back our position with facts. We ultimately have a much stronger footing than they do, we simply are not fully leveraging that fact.
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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist
The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
Only up to 43%. 
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Dangus, you're right. Look what happened with the "plastic gun" ban. We all knew there was no such thing, but it passed. And now Cheney is getting hit for not voting to ban something that didn't and does not now exist.
Same thing with "cop killer bullets." We know that just about any rifle round will penetrate Kevlar, but the anti's are now having a field day. One Gore staffer said "the last time I looked, the deer in the forest weren't wearing Kevlar."
When they define the words, they frame the debate.
Dick
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Same thing with "cop killer bullets." We know that just about any rifle round will penetrate Kevlar, but the anti's are now having a field day. One Gore staffer said "the last time I looked, the deer in the forest weren't wearing Kevlar."
When they define the words, they frame the debate.
Dick
Want to send a message to Bush? Sign the petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/monk/petition.html and forward the link to every gun owner you know.
woof, argh,and other sounds of dismay.
it is bad enough that someone out there is passing out moron pills, looks like there are bunches of people eating them too.
a quick downer for ballistic fingerprint enthusiasts, 250,000,000+ firearms extant in the USA. you want a "fingerprint" go find em all.
just who is going to pay for maintaing this set of records? and where are they going to be kept? akkkk
rms/pa
the problem is not that folks think..... but that they do NOT think. stuff like this is why reader/advisors always make money.
it is bad enough that someone out there is passing out moron pills, looks like there are bunches of people eating them too.
a quick downer for ballistic fingerprint enthusiasts, 250,000,000+ firearms extant in the USA. you want a "fingerprint" go find em all.
just who is going to pay for maintaing this set of records? and where are they going to be kept? akkkk
rms/pa
the problem is not that folks think..... but that they do NOT think. stuff like this is why reader/advisors always make money.
MP Freeman
New member
just who is going to pay for maintaing this set of records? and where are they going to be kept?
Dont worry rms/pa,
Our tax dollars will pay for this.
And they'll be kept on file with the Rose law firm records. Safe and sound.
Dont worry rms/pa,
Our tax dollars will pay for this.
And they'll be kept on file with the Rose law firm records. Safe and sound.
Scenario
I use a "fingerprinted gun". I lose some brass. My brass goes to salvage, or is gathered elsewhere by somebody with evil intent. My brass is left at crime scene. I get to prove myself innocent if I have enough money.
My fingerprints can not be left at a crime scene by another. My brass can.
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Sam I am, grn egs n packin
Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
I use a "fingerprinted gun". I lose some brass. My brass goes to salvage, or is gathered elsewhere by somebody with evil intent. My brass is left at crime scene. I get to prove myself innocent if I have enough money.
My fingerprints can not be left at a crime scene by another. My brass can.
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Sam I am, grn egs n packin
Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
Yes
43% => 30347 votes
No
52% => 36651 votes
Don't know
3% => 2205 votes
Current Vote Tally: 69203
Looks like it is closed with the above results. I feel that it is not only a violation of privacy but it is a flawed precept. See my previous post. Red herring cartridge cases left at the scene is not a new concept. Been done in the past.
Sam
43% => 30347 votes
No
52% => 36651 votes
Don't know
3% => 2205 votes
Current Vote Tally: 69203
Looks like it is closed with the above results. I feel that it is not only a violation of privacy but it is a flawed precept. See my previous post. Red herring cartridge cases left at the scene is not a new concept. Been done in the past.
Sam