Well guys, I have to say, you have all been awsome at giving me advice. And I fully appreciate it. Although, I must admit, I went down to the gunshop that had the Baikal yesterday, and I told the owner that I hadn't heard anything real good about the Baikal, and I wanted to look for something a little better, he really let me know he thought I was making a mistake. Ya, I know, he is a salesman and just trying to sell guns, but I asked him if he could keep his eyes open for me, so he knows I want to buy eventually. I am just really torn at the whole situation. i would almost rather get a new gun and take my chances with a one year warrantee. That way I can always get it replaced or return it. I don't know, I know I sound el-cheapo, but I just can't see in my financial position paying $500 for a gun that I can't return. If anyone knows anything else about the Savage, that sounds like a possibility, or not?????