BAD news for New Yorkers!

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Source: The New York Daily News - http://www.nydailynews.com/2000-03-15/News_and_Views/Beyond_the_City/a-60046.asp

Pataki Wants Tough New Laws on Guns
Seeks nation's 1st bullet database

BY JOE MAHONEY
Daily News Albany Bureau


New York would be thrust into the vanguard of the fight against gun violence under a bold new proposal by Gov. Pataki to launch a first-of-its-kind gun-tracing system.

Gun manufacturers selling weapons in the state would be required to provide police with shell casings and bullets fired by the guns, giving law enforcement the ability to maintain a digital database that could be analyzed to solve gun crimes, Pataki said last night.

The measure is part of a five-part plan that also would require gun dealers to sell child-safety locking devices whenever they sell a firearm.

The other measures would:

- Ban the possession and sale of assault weapons in New York, putting New York in line with existing federal legislation.

- Mandate background checks for purchases of guns at all gun shows.

- Require that anyone obtaining a handgun permit in New York be at least 19 years old.

Pataki said the gun-tracing system — which he is dubbing DNA for Guns — "gives law enforcement an enormous tool for solving crimes."

When a gun is fired, a distinctive marking is left on the shell casing and bullet, information that would be electronically kept on file where it could be retrieved by law enforcement officers, the governor said.

"A criminal doesn't often leave a gun at a crime scene, but they often leave a bullet or a shell casing," he noted.

The measure requires that when a weapon is sold, the dealer notify the state police of the ownership change.

Pataki is to be joined today by New York City Police Commissioner Howard Safir; Westchester District Attorney Jeanine Pirro, who heads the state District Attorneys Association, and others in announcing the new crimefighting package.

Violent crime has dropped significantly in New York over the past five years, the governor noted. "Our policies are working in a dramatic way, but that doesn't mean that we in any way should let up," he said.

Pataki's call for child-safety locks comes two weeks after the shooting death of a 6-year-old girl at a Michigan school. She was killed by another child who gained access to a handgun. Pataki's aides said he was already developing the initiatives before that incident.

Seventeen states have child-safety lock requirements. At least six require those obtaining gun permits to be older than 21.

Pataki is casting the initiative not as a gun control measure but as a crime prevention tool. Since taking office in 1995, Pataki has signed death penalty legislation, as well as Megan's Law to keep sex offenders on a short leash and Jenna's Law, which ended parole for most violent felons.

The National Rifle Association opposes such a gun-tracing system, contending it is a preliminary step toward national gun registration. Pataki's proposals also will put him at odds with Republicans nationally.

The outlook for the legislation is uncertain. In past sessions, state Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno (R-Rensselaer) has resisted assault weapons bans, instead calling for increased penalties for those who commit crimes with guns.

"Virtually every one of the criminal justice initiatives has been a difficult fight," Pataki said. "I'm sure these will be as well. But they will make our streets safer and our schools safer."

For those of you that think this won't pass, I remind you the A6899-The Assault Weapon Prohibition and Licensing Act of 1999 PASSED the New York State Assembly on May 5, 1999 by a 3.4 to 1 ratio (113 to 33)! IT CAN HAPPEN HERE!
 
Here's contact information:

The best way to find your New York State representatives is to go to the NRA-ILA division's web site at http://www.nraila.org/ . Click on Write your reps (on the left side of the screen) then choose your state in the "Guide to States" option. Finally, enter your zip code.

If you really value your black rifles and your GOD GIVEN RIGHTS, you'll probably want to write every representative in New York. Here's the links for their names and addresses:

New York State Assembly - http://assembly.state.ny.us/ - Go to the link "Assembly Member Directory".

New York State Senate - http://www.senate.state.ny.us/ - Go to the "Senators" button at the top left of the screen.

If you want to write and call Pataki, here's his info:

Governor George Pataki
State Capitol
Albany, NY 12224

Web: www.state.ny.us/governor/
Phone: (518) 474-8390
Fax: (518) 474-3767

If there was ever a time to write a letter, make a phone call, or join the NRA, THE TIME IS NOW!
 
gee and people used acid to remove fingerprints from their hands, so a 5 minute spin of the crocus cloth is an unthinkable thing for a criminal to do?

Pataki said the gun-tracing system — which he is dubbing DNA for Guns — "gives law enforcement an enormous tool forsolving crimes."
 
According to what was just on CNN, G. Dubya Bush is SUPPORTING Gov. Pataki's proposal!!
This is a surprise that really concerns rethinkin' who the he!! to vote for.

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"Then call us Rebels, if you will, we glory in the name;
for bending under unjust laws, and swearing faith to an unjust cause,
we count as greater shame."
-Richmond Daily Dispatch, May 12, 1862
 
Looks like New Yorkers are the latest to learn that the only party that gives a damn about gun rights is the Libertarian Party.

Vote Libertarian, now and always,
 
This just goes to show that Republicans are not immune to stupidity and/or demagoguery. However, I personally think that Pataki, like Henry Hyde, is an aberration among Republicans.
 
In reality, a democrat from down south is usally more conservative than a republican from the east coast.
California, New Jersey, New York, the list just keeps getting bigger of states I would never live in, and really have no interest in visiting.
 
They don't want to talk about replacement barrels and firing pins or slides. Once they get the law then they have another loop hole that requires more legislation. First they need to whip the masses into a frenzy to close this new loop hole. The idea is to keep gun control in front of the people as a continual crises that requires government intervention.

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I keep saying it over and over... there's no middle any more... the boundaries of debate are defined by the Left... there's no middle any more.... the boundaries of debate are defined by the Left....

:exasperated:

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ALARM! ALARM! CIVILIZATION IS IN PERIL! THE BARBARIANS HAVE TAKEN THE GATES!
 
Outlaw1, can you provide a link or other source to confirm that position by Bush? If true, his campaign will get one h(*l of a letter from me.

Dick
 
what about reloaded ammunition, would there be 2 markings on it. OOPS, I better keep my mouth shut, I don't want to give them anymore ideas.
 
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