Baby Eagle Pistol

Patman

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Hello all,
I'm hoping someone can give me some safety info on my new full size Baby Eagle 40 S&W. I've been carrying a Makarov with a round chambered, and the safety off for a few years, and am very confident of its safety, however, with the Eagle, I'd like to know if it's reasonably safe to carry with a round chambered, half cocked hammer, and safety off, in a high threat environment. To me, it appears safe, as the trigger has to be pulled for the hammer to drop.
Thanks for any input
 
Since the Baby Eagle is a DA pistol, I wouldn't bother half-cocking it. You should be fine by just leaving the hammer down. Safety on or off is up to you. The half cock position is meant as more of a way to "catch" the hammer if you were to slip while cocking it.
 
OK, I've never had a problem doing this with my Mak, becuase the sear obviously keeps the hammer off of the firing pin.
On the Eagle, the hammer is all the way down, appearantly on the FP, unless I'm missing some safety feature like the FP being disconnected until the hammer is cocked. As far as I can tell from the book that came with the pistol, the FP is disconnected only when safety is on.
Anyone know of an in-depth source of info on the mechanics of the Baby Eagle Pistol?


TIA
 
why dont you keep the safty on?sound really stupid to me,i mean come on you can throw the safty down(off)on a makarov as your drawing it.with a round in the hole you really should have the safty on unless it a glock and dosent have an external safty.no environment is that hi risk.:barf:
 
Not asking for a safety lesson. I'm asking for some info on the Eagle's design.
A Makarov CANNOT fire without pulling the trigger ALL THE WAY!
And, no, the way that I carry the pistol, the safety cannot be "easily flipped off".
:o
 
Baby Eagle

You could call Magnum Research and ask(1-800-772-6168)...I wouldn't chamber a round and put the hammer on down it would sit on the firing pin. Your thought seems to make sense.

Phil
 
from working on my eagle's trigger and the [worthless for gunsmithing] owners' manual, I have to agree: the firing pin WILL move if hit UNLESS the safety is on. The hammer, in the half-cocked position, is not safe, but neither is the hammer on a 1911 in the cocked positions unless the safety is locked [according to all of the manufacturers].

Can you do what you want? Yeah, you can. BUT, if there is a slip, the hammer will fall on the firing pin, which will move forward and strike the primer of the bullet in the pipe. Will this be strong enough to cause an AD, or will you get lucky and not blow a hole in some part of you're anatomy? Can't say.

It can be done, but not with a margin of safety I am comfortable will. I am sure that Mag Research will say "DON'T DO IT!", but they are also VERY lawsuit conscious. We can do about anything we want, if we are willing to accept responsibility for the risks involved, and the half-cocked position is not a low-risk option. Good luck and may you never have an A.D.

jms

ADDITION:

I know that using the sear is like the basic trigger function of a rifle: the pin won't move unless the sear is disengaged. However, when I carry a rifle the barrel tip is not strapped to part of my body, pointed 'south' . When I was taught to hunt, I was taught [for better or worse, this is NOT a safety lesson, but a way of understanding my concerns with the sear as the only safety feature] to carry the rifle loaded, and when the trail got 'hot' to chamber a round, when I could see the target and I was ready to fire, to disengage my safety-aim-fire. My grandpa, grandma, mom and dad all [yes, they all taught me at different times] drilled it into my head to never move through the forest with a rifle that has a chambered round and the safety off: sears CAN slip, and you can't predict that. This is the reason I am so uncomfortable with relying only upon the sear as a safety. I just can't shake the ghosts of my past. Mechanically, the sear should work fine.
 
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