Australia

[Harley Nolden]

Not sure this should be posted here, but I figure this issue has been brought up at one time or another here in the U.S.

> LEARN FROM THE MISTAKES OF OTHERS
>
> It has now been 12 months since gun owners in Australia were forced to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed, a program costing the government more than
$500 million dollars.
>
> And now the results are in: Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent; Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent;
Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent). In the state of Victoria, homicides with firearms are up 300 percent. Figures over the previous 25 years show a steady decrease in armed robbery with firearms (changed drastically in the past 12 months). There has been a dramatic increase in break-ins and assaults of the elderly.

Australian politicians are on the spot and at a loss to explain how no improvement in "safety" has been observed after such monumental effort and expense was uccessfully
expended in "ridding society of guns."

Bet you won't see this data on the evening news or hear your governor or members of the state Assembly
disseminating this information. It's time to
state it plainly:

Guns in the hands of honest citizens save lives and property and, yes, gun-control laws only affect the law-abiding citizens.


HJN

 

[Hard Ball]

Harley:
This is very good and useful data. Could you quote a source. Anti-gun people are denying that it is true.

Thanks. Hard Ball

 

[logansdad]

I read on another board that The O'Reilly Factor on Fox News was going to have a discussion of an Australian type gun ban in the US. Watch it tonight at 8PM EST.

 

[BTR]

This is factual I think, but the gun ban was years ago, so these numbers are a few years old. We shouldn't quote them like it's current- I think this is from '97.

 

[walangkatapat]

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20000303_xnjdo_crime_up_d.shtml

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"Gun Control Only Protects Those in Power"

 

[Bruce in West Oz]

This whole issue has been raised again with the NRA ad campaign.

I suggest you got to
http://www.ssaa.org.au/nraweb.html for some responses and statistics.

B

[This message has been edited by Bruce in West Oz (edited March 22, 2000).]

 

[walangkatapat]

I got this from I guy I correspond with and I'm not sure if he wants me to use his name,
so I'll just call him Lars:

has anyone figured in the effect of the tasmania shooting...that shooting along would have spiked the data one year and make the next year look "lower" when in fact it was only lower than an unnaturally large year.

Anyone know the year this happened? This does make a lot of sense if it's in the time frame.

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"Gun Control is Only to Protect Those in Power"

 

[Blueyedog]

Australian stats -
Australia Bureau of Statistics World Wide Web Information www.statistics.gov.au/websitedbs/d3310114.nsf/homepage

Frameset Crime Statistics - Queensland Aus. www.statistics.gov.au/crim_frameset.html

Gun Legislation www.ssaa.org.au/gunleg.html

Lawlink NSW Trends in New South Wales www.lawlink.nsw.gov.au/bocsar1.nsf/pages/crimetrends9798



[This message has been edited by Blueyedog (edited March 24, 2000).]

 

[Tortuga]

Please see the forum http://www.thefiringline.com:8080/forums/showthread.php?threadid=25959 where I have researched the validity of these statistics.

 

[walangkatapat]

Here's some more from Worldnetdaily: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/bluesky_dougherty/20000324_xnjdo_australia_.shtml

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"Gun Control is Only to Protect Those in Power"