ATTN. Parents: Beware what your kids are being taught by Gov't. controlled schools!!

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progunner1957

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This tidbit from Jews for the Protection of Firearms Ownership www.jpfo.org is worthy food for thought for parents who send their kids to Government controlled schools. "Our" Government is practicing socialist indoctrination via the public school system, and We The People are paying for it!!

The Government doctrine of "submit, conform, obey" that our childern are being fed on a daily basis must be countered at home if our freedoms are to survive.

August 18, 2005
WARNING: TEACH YOUR CHILDREN WELL

Summer has nearly slipped past and many of our children are heading back to school. If you're like us, you worry about the kind of messages your kids might be getting in their classrooms:

The government will provide for everyone.
Guns are evil.
"Security" and surveillance are for your own good.
Every bad feeling is a mental illness.
The world is so dangerous that you must give up your individual rights in order to preserve "freedom."

What we need is not "seperation of church and state;" what we need is SEPERATION OF SCHOOL AND STATE.
 
This is a colorful thread. Makes me want to do this :D

But yeah, the way I see it is. The schools should only teach the material the class is labeled as.

Math = Math
History = History
ETC

If there is a Human Rights or Civil Studies or Social Studies then facts should be given not opinions, but that is hard because the teacher will always have his/her opinions.
 
I did a report on the negative effects of gun control. Jaws dropped. Life was good. :D

Ok, more on-topic... It does worry me to see what alot of schools are turning into these days.

+1 @ BarettaCougar
 
This tidbit from Jews for the Protection of Firearms Ownership www.jpfo.org is worthy food for thought for parents who send their kids to Government controlled schools. "Our" Government is practicing socialist indoctrination via the public school system, and We The People are paying for it!!
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HA! this is the same thing that other groups accuse the jews of doing. :D what a wacky world we live in :p
 
Don't be so worried. The kids ignore the teachers a good deal of the time. Liberal insanity starts in the home.

Remember kids, if you want to drive your teachers nuts, be a Conservative. ;) :D
 
Are those topics taught in Western Lit., Physics, or Algebra? Certainly not history, since no one has ever had a history class that got past the Tea Pot Dome Scandal.
 
Take it from someone who was just in highschool, we only hear what we need to hear to pass the tests. Be more worried about what your childrens friends are telling them, hope their parents are liberals! Besides when the school tells the kids that servailence is good for them, they only try to figure out ways to beat the cameras and watchful eyes of administrators. It becomes a game as to who can get away with the most stuff.
 
Scout,

Having been around these boards for awhile, I'll let you in on something:

The people who complain loudest about teachers and education in America are the ones who haven't been around either in 40 years. Most of us slightly younger folks have no idea what the hubbub is about.
 
Not 40 years, 16. Class of '89. Many hippie teachers. Right off the top of my head: I remember getting Legos taken away for making guns out of them. I remember a history teacher explaining to us why the 2nd amendment wasn't an individual right. I remember another history teacher explaining why anybody who kept a gun by the bed for protection was ignorant because you can't see the sights in the dark. I remember a self defense video in health class which seemed to make clear all you needed for self-defense was a set of car keys in your fist.

And a surprising number of kids seemed to buy all that. Today many of them are becoming teachers, taught everything they know by burnt out hippies. :eek:

There's definitely a liberal influence in public schools. Unless it's become more conservative since I went there. Don't think so.

I'm keeping an open ear to what my kids are being taught nowadays... better be the 3 R's. Reading writing and arithmetic. And MY version of history.
 
Most of the teachers in Texas aren't hippies. I talked guns with my shop teachers in high school and art teacher in 6th grade. Kids pick of one how intelligent any given teacher is real quick. If their smart the students will take the teachers view into account, or at least show them respect. However if the teacher is a dumbass, well their in for one heck of a year (I have seen and taken part in this too many times to count). You could tell which kids had any common sense real quick. Almost every student I have spoken with already had their views of the war and gun rights set in stone by their parents.

I have not seen any situations of teachers trying to change students views. However some teachers make the class into an open forum and allow discussion and imput from the students. These are the teacher that I respected the most.
 
There is hope. It's just that, to change a lot of minds, very often they first have to be robbed or raped. Then they see the utility of providing for your own defense.

If my girlfriend, steadfastly anti-gun (almost to the point of neurosis!), asked me to take her to the range (although she refused to shoot) after seeing a fight break out where she works at a school for ...erm... underprivileged youth... then there is hope for even the most ignorant, dogmatically hysterical and illogical anti-gunner to see the absurdity of their position eventually.

-blackmind
 
'75scout, I don't mean to pick on you, but I think it's ironic that we're talking about teachers and students and schools, and you repeatedly use "their" incorrectly to stand in for "they're."

I'm glad that you used "too" correctly; many people don't note the difference between that and "to".

-blackmind
 
Well; just look who sits at the top of the responsible Federal branch. There's your answer again. A full term in office and everything is still rolling the same direction.

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"We must press on with our agenda for peace and prosperity in every land." - George Bush, to the United Nations General Assembly, November 10, 2001
 
Our kids are what we make them. Take part in raising them, dont let the schools be responsible for the morals and ethics.

My oldest goes to a private school and she has told me that most of the kids there think that guns are bad and people that have them are crazy/evil. We talk about it once in a while, usually on the way home from the range where she was just shooting the P22...

My youngest does not seem to have an opinion about guns yet - she has seen mine and can see them anytime she asks.

I have asked, and neither has been "taught" anything about guns at school, public or private.

Personally I graduated from High School in 88. The teacher that I remember most and got the most from was a hippy. He had long hair, did not know how to dress nicely, often it was obvious he had not showered, liberal to the core politicly... The think he taught me that has stuck is to question authority. To not blindley say OK to whatever I am told. To at least consider what is being said before I just agree.

Thing is, both my parents were/are conservative. So I took this need to question and challenge what I am told, along with the conservative background.

I believe it all boils down to this - We take the lead roles in raising our children. We speak with them bluntly about right and wrong, money, faith, guns, drugs, and sex. They will live longer and have a better knowledge base to make decisions with as they get older and face choices without me or their mom with them to help.
 
I believe it all boils down to this - We take the lead roles in raising our children. We speak with them bluntly about right and wrong, money, faith, guns, drugs, and sex. They will live longer and have a better knowledge base to make decisions with as they get older and face choices without me or their mom with them to help.
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To the best of my knowledge it started even farther back then most can remember. from what i remember as a young kid in the 60' it was just a few things at first. anyone remember having to get under your desk for air raid drills??
when i was in my teens, high school is were it really started to get strong. the teachers told us we had our rights and to not listen to or parents because they were old fashion and i told my dad that and got knocked off the chair by a back hand.
I learned fast that being old fashion like my parents was a good thing!
I was the class of 77' and peanut man was president.
they rammed everything down our throats basically just like progunner said at the first of this tread. so even as far back as the late 60' and the early 70' it was in our schools and on our radios and even on the 6 or 7 channels we got on TV and as scout said, even then we did what we wanted and ignored the teachers and ducked the campus security to take off early. in the late 80' when my kids were first going to school is when it started getting real bad, with winter vacation instead of Christmas vacation. now days a lot of the kids seem to except this and as so under the schools and teachers influence that they are becoming as sheaply as the adults that are teaching them. my all time favorite phrase is" oh you like guns, your one of them". as someone said before, we need to get back to the 3 R' and get more commonsense thinking teachers back in our schools.

:) :) :) :)
 
I intend to avoid the whole thing by not subjecting my children to "public" schools to begin with. That way, I don't have to get all worked up when one half of the population wants to let Rover the Constitutional Expert sniff his locker and make my son say their religion's prayers, while the other wants to feed him Ritalin and make him carry a see-through backpack.
 
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