Attention M1A Owners, does your rifle do this???

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JRiggs

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Egected brass is hit by my oprod. Its starting to take the finish off a little in the corner. I can say this, its VERY consistent. The brass is put in the 1 o'clock position on the ground. I could catch it with a bucket if I wanted to. It hits the same spot on the oprod everytime, for the most part. Is this a sort of built in "brass deflector", or could I have a problem? Thanks!
 
I looked at several M-1As a few secs. ago and they all show some "brightness" on the lower forward portion of the op rod's user interface. I also looked at several M1s and noticed the same results. I would like to send you some 5 gal. buckets and some RPS return labels! ;) Sounds to me like your rig is very well tuned. Unless the brass is being thown nearly straight down I would say you have a happy rig.
 
That op rod hump is called the Deflector, Brass, Empty, M116A37.

Seriously, it is not really supposed to do that and some work on the ejector should fix it, but the military does not reload and never really cared.

Jim
 
Same here.

Anyone know of something to take the brass flecks off?

Jim, how can the ejector cause this, if you don't mind. And thanks for your help on the denting and dinging deal.

Regards.
 
Removing brass marks....

LedBetter and all,
Get a stainless steel brush and brush the area with the brush DRY. It should remove the brass marks.
Clem
USMC Retired
 
And you are complaining,lol. My AR edjects the brass right into the teflon coating on the upper. The brass marks come off but still leaves a mark in the finish.
 
Riggs, mine eats brass like a Suthern boy at an All You Can Eat barbeque. Ejects consistently at 3 o'clock and leaves brass markings on the gun but I don't care as long as she don't JAM.

Now, if I could just get my 10 rd. mag to feed as good as my 20s. I'd be a happy camper.
 
I hear ya A. Rex, I basically retired my 10 rounder. It works, but it just doesnt look right in that rifle. I find 10 round Clinton mags to be problematic in just about every weapon. I only use USGI in mine. Is it possible to get this rifle to jam? What a work of art! Thanks for all the replies.
 
Hi, Ledbetter,

A little judicious stoning of the ejector can cause it to throw the brass at a slightly different angle.

Jim
 
Cool. Thanks all.

Don't think I'll judiciously alter any part of my perfectly functioning $1500 rifle, but it's a thought;) Jim, thanks for all your help on everything. You're a respected info source.

Thanks to all. My understanding is that non-stainless steel wool shouldn't be used on firearms, as it will leave particles which will rust.

Regards.
 
Remove the brass dings? Shoot, man, leave'm there. Call it character. Gives the gun a little personality - shows people you're a shooter, not a set-it-on-the-shelf-and-look-at-it person.

If you go for regular steel wool, get a spray-type gun cleaner/oil. The force of air and the wash of oil will blow those harmful rust-catchers right off. Think of it as a mini pressure washer.
 
FYI
The brass used for the M1A style of rifle should only have 5 total loads (ie shooting factory ammo plus 4 reloads) run through it or case head separation is a possibility.
 
My M1A also gets brass marks on the op rod. It also has chipped the stock below the op rod. The brass is undamaged.

Exactly where and how would one stone the ejector to alter the flight path of the ejected brass?
 
Stoning the ejector:

1. Get a SPARE STOCK ejector.

2. Try stoning the bottom "flat" of its front, so the "corner" point moves upward towards the 3:00 position of the bolt as viewed from behind. That *might* make the brass jump a bit more upward as it peels out from under the extractor.

Then again, I just might have this backwards.

There may also be a slight stoning to be done on the 4:00 area of the extractor, but I've forgotten so much, I've earned Senior Moments before my time.:(

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On removing the brass marks:

Gee whiz, dontchaknow that Phospate parkerizing finish has limited abrasion resistance?

Just rub the stuff off with a cleaning patch and any old copper solvent. It WORKS, and with less abrasive action than even a patch and Break Free (better solvent = less rubbing).


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I've seen tuned M-1s and M-1As that toss their brass in a nice little plate-sized pile about 2 feet from the action, at about 2 0'clock from the line of fire.

If you're really into TEOTWAWKI, leave the op-rod ejection assist intact. The larger disbursal area and having them tossed farther away from your position make it less likely after any five-plus round exchange for you to experience:

1. Tripping on a pile of rolling brass as you jump up and run to a new firing position, or

2. Having your position easily marked by aerial spotters who see a nice pile of shiny brass not so far from your head, or

3. Ditto for #2 on anyone with night vision picking up a larger infrared signature from a compact brass pile,

4. Being quite easily tracked from your LAST firing position by incompetent trackers who would miss a more spread-out brass pile.

And if you take any of these four points seriously, you're thinking WAY TOO HARD about extreme situations!:rolleyes:
 
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