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Ok i've noticed I prettyconsistantly shoot slightly high and left. I'm a right handed shooter using a 40 XD and a 40 Glock. What's my problem, or what should I be looking for?
 
check how your griping the pistol. then make sure you don't have to much finger on the trigger. slow down your trigger pull. try to pull the trigger as slow as you possibly can. we]hen you think you are pulling the trigger too slow, slow it down some more. that should straighten you out.
 
try this:

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You know, I never thought this could be used as a target until you mentioned it. I just use it as a reference. There are targets call trouble shooters that explain what you're doing wrong.

Which terms are asking about? They relate to properly squeezing the trigger, your grip, locking your wrists, trying to anticipate recoil....
 
1st question. Where can I get those targets? 2nd what do half those terms mean?
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I've seen some peoples use those as targets, and they shot like crap, and they were all over the place, I think it's a stigmatism.

I shot there same gun on my own target, and I shot that Government GI 1911 in a really tight grip to the point of embarrassment to them with there own gun. True story!:D

And the guy got the mint gun for free!:rolleyes:
 
hgmike, doesn't that target only apply when shooting one-handed?

Leartes, do you shoot with one or two hands? Is your gun sighted in correctly?
 
motorhead0922 - i don't think it applies to one hand only. but it actually makes more sense the more i look at it. however, there are some things like trigger control that would apply to one or two hands.

let me know if you find out if that chart was intended for one hand only.
 
A local range had those left- and right-hand targets posted in each lane, and they said they were for one hand. But I'm with you; I think the target would apply to 2-hand shooting, but to a lesser extent. OTOH, if you're squeezing incorrectly with the trigger hand, you're probably also squeezing with the support hand too.
 
two hands

I shoot two hands. What's thumbing and heeling? I assume there sighted right. Both are new. The XD is factory spec and the Glock has trijicon night sights installed by RockYourGlock.
 
Try this one, it explains how to correct.

Shooting Wheel Target

I can't explain what thumbing or heeling. If thumbing is too much pressure with your thumb, I would think you would shoot left of bullseye, not right. If heeling is too much pressure with the heel of your hand, I would think you would shoot low, not high.
 
What distance are you shooting at? Whenever I practice shooting, I start by shooting at 9 feet, then 15 feet, then 21 feet, and so on. It's easier to determine and fix what you're doing wrong at closer distances.

I have to disagree with those who say pull the trigger back slowly and it should be a surprise when the trigger breaks. It may be a good way to teach new shooters basic trigger control so they don't yank on the trigger. It's more important you learn to take up the slack on the trigger right before it breaks. So you know exactly when the trigger will break and it's not a surprise.

Here's a link for dry fire practice drills
 
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Occasionally I shoot at 9 ft, but usually I shoot at about 20 ft. I "try" to make it a habbit to take up the slack first.
 
So you know exactly when the trigger will break and it's not a surprise.
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According to my instructors, the trigger break should always be a surprise.
--If you are shooting one pistol consistently to the same POI (which is not your POA) it is either the pistol or your technique.
--If you are shooting more than one pistol to the same POI (which is not your POA) it is probably your technique.

Have someone else shoot those same pistols with the same ammo. If their POI is different (and coincides with POA) then it is your technique.

Good job shooting consistently--most people cannot do that, so any "map" is useless. Moving the group is the easy part, and I'm sure you will do it.
 
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I'm curious about something.
It would seem to me that the idea of placing the projectile is a deliberate act, not a surprise.
Shouldn't the instruction include how to make the shot happen when you want it to happen?
Surprises and gunfire seem to be mutually exclusive in my mind.
I understand the concept, but think it might only be fun when target shooting as opposed to using a firearm for self-defense.
 
The slow trigger pull helps new shooters get some kind of consistant grouping. {hopefully}
I ran into this with one of the members this weekend. He was all over the place. I don't know him, but he asked me to shoot his pistol. He thought there was something wrong with the gun.
The gun was fine, it was him.
We did the slow surprise trigger pull and got him making decent groups after about 20rds. It doesn't solve all the problems, but it's a start.

BTW, the P345 Ruger is a pretty nice pistol.
 
Hope it helps, Leartes.

Something else that you might experiment with is shooting with your other hand (left vs. right) and gauging the results.

Although I am right-handed, I usually try to shoot a few rounds using my left hand (one-handed and 2-handed) almost every time.

Although it feels quite awkward, my accuracy (to use a generous term) seems to be about the same. It really surprises me.

Best -

Monty

P.S. Keep in mind that I am not an instructor, but I do try different techniques to attempt to improve my shooting.
 
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