Assault weapon ban has an expiration date?

10 year sunset provision. Things should get interesting in a few years . . . .

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"Anyone feel like saluting the flag which the strutting ATF and FBI gleefully raised over the smoldering crematorium of Waco, back in April of ‘93?" -Vin Suprynowicz
 
So, after this thing expires, I can buy a brand new HK-91. New, as in "Just got it in last week from Germany."? :) :)
 
hkg3,

Don't hold your breath...



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"No provision in our Constitution ought to be dearer to man than that which protects the rights of conscience against the enterprises of the civil authority" - Thomas Jefferson
 
I almost signed the Petition :D

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"Defiance"
And yet...it moves
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"Spay or Nuter your Socialist Pets"
 
Everyone be sure and sign Monkeyleg's petition.

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
I feel like Jim Carey on Dumb and Dumber, when he asks Mrs. Swanson (forgot her real name) what the chances are of the two of them getting together; she replies “About a million-to-one.” then his reply to her is “So...I still have a chance!” We’ll probably have a better chance with Emerson.

B9mmHP:
I thought about signing the petition too. :D
 
Id heard a couple of people say that
Bush favors the continued 'assault weapons ban' but dont know where its been written to look up if at all.
Wouldnt surprise me at all.
If he could be pressured into signing a 'triggerlock' bill as he already stated he could certainly be 'pressured' by the liberal media to continue a law already on the books, things the NRA favors so much these days.
Ever hear an NRA rep say the word repeal???
www.ccops.org www.gunowners.org www.jbs.org

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Ruger45: Last time I looked, it said so on his own web page. Hm, but they've changed it now, to be less specific. Here, this is from
Issues 2000:
George W. Bush on Gun Control
Government should pay for voluntary trigger locks

Bush said Texas will spend about $1 million a year for five years to purchase trigger locks, which would be distributed to citizens who asked for them at police stations and fire departments. “It seems like to me one of the things we ought to do is be common-sensical about how we deal with gun safety,” Bush said. “And if I become the president, I’m going to ask Congress to appropriate money for a national program to do just the same thing, which is distribute trigger locks for people to use.” Bush proposed that the federal government make $325 million in matching funds available over five years for state and local governments that adopt programs similar to the Texas program. Until recently Bush had opposed mandatory trigger locks and ridiculed rival Sen. John McCain during the South Carolina primary for switching positions on the issue and voting for an amendment to the Senate’s juvenile justice bill that made trigger locks mandatory.
Source: Washington Post & New York Times, page A10 May 13, 2000

Bush says Gore is more a member of NRA than Bush is
In a speech to the Association of Health Care Journalists, Gore said, “Bush has convinced the NRA that he wants to take the gun lobbyists out of the lobby & put them right into the Oval Office.” Gore’s point was that gun violence was straining the health care system, to the tune of $2.3 billion annually, and that Bush was so deeply in the pocket of the gun lobby that he could not recognize this problem.
Bush dismissed those accusations. “I make my positions on what I think is right. I’ll make the decisions as to what goes on in the White House,“ he said. Repeating an accusation he has made before, Bush said: ”I’ve never been a member of the NRA. Gore has been, if I’m not mistaken.“
This accusation momentarily befuddled both campaigns, neither of which could find evidence that Gore had belonged to the gun lobby. A Bush spokesman said Bush might have been referring to an NRA official saying that Gore had once been so opposed to gun control that he could have been the poster boy for it.
Source: Katharine Q. Seelye, New York Times, p. A20 May 5, 2000

Agrees with Gore on trigger locks;but wants more enforcement
Where They Agree: Regarding guns, Texas Gov. George W. Bush and Vice President Al Gore would, if elected president:
Support the current ban on assault weapons.
Prohibit juveniles from possessing assault weapons.
Ban imports of high-capacity ammunition clips.
Raise the minimum age for possessing a handgun from 18 to 21.
Require that trigger locks be sold with handguns.
Where They Differ
Bush also would:
Provide more money for enforcement of gun laws.
Support automatic detention for young people who commit crimes with guns.
Oppose government-mandated registration of guns owned by people who don’t break laws.
Gore also would:
Require photo licensing for handgun purchases.
Limit gun purchases to one per month and require a three-day waiting period.
Require manufacturers and federally licensed sellers to report sales to a state authority.
Source: Associated Press in Los Angeles Times Apr 21, 2000

Project Sentry: juvenile gun laws & school accountability
Bush will establish “Project Sentry” to enforce federal juvenile gun laws; and impose a lifetime ban on gun possession for juvenile offenders. Bush will also hold states and districts accountable for improving school safety; require states and districts to provide students in persistently dangerous schools a transfer to a safe alternative; call for a uniform reporting system to allow parents to know which schools are safe.
Source: Press Release, Temple TX Apr 20, 2000

Would sign, but would not push, gun restrictions
Bush has said he would sign a law requiring trigger locks with handgun sales but wouldn’t push such legislation. Bush has endorsed outlawing the import of certain high-capacity ammunition clips. Bush also would raise the legal age for handgun purchases from 18 to 21.
Source: Judy Holland, Hearst Newspapers Apr 14, 2000

Ban automatic weapons & high-capacity ammunition clips
Supports stronger enforcement of existing gun laws, would provide more funding for aggressive gun law enforcement programs such as Project Exile in Richmond, Virginia
Supports requiring instant background checks at gun shows by allowing gun show promoters to access the instant check system on behalf of vendors
Supports law-abiding American’s constitutional right to own guns to protect their families and home
Supports the current ban on automatic weapons
Supports banning the importation of foreign made, “high-capacity” ammunition clips
Supports voluntary safety locks
Opposes government mandated registration of all guns owned by law abiding citizens
Source: GeorgeWBush.com: ‘Issues: Policy Points Overview’ Apr 2, 2000

Best gun control is more prosecution & certain jail
Q: You are in favor of some gun controls?
A: I’m in favor of keeping guns out of the hands of people who shouldn’t have them like felons & juveniles. I’m for enforcing the laws on the books. In Texas, we’ve armed D.A.’s with extra money to prosecute people who break the law. We need to send a signal to people, don’t be illegally selling guns and don’t be illegally using guns. The best accountability for somebody who breaks the law with a gun is called jail, certain jail.
Source: Des Moines Iowa GOP Debate Dec 13, 1999

Supports gun ownership for protection and hunting
I believe law-abiding citizens should be allowed to own guns to hunt and to protect themselves. and that our government should aggressively pursue. people who illegally sell guns, illegally carry guns, or commit crimes with guns. I also believe that government should pass laws such as instant background checks to help keep guns out of the hands of felons and juveniles and others who should not have them.
Source: “A Charge to Keep”, p. 35-36. Dec 9, 1999

$1.6M TX campaign, “Gun Crime Means Hard Time.”
Announced he was allocating $1.6 million in state funds to a new initiative to crack down on gun crime. Bush said $1.28 million will be used to pay for the appointment of eight special prosecutors who will vigorously prosecute criminals who use guns within the framework of existing laws. Another $360,000 will be used to fund a public awareness campaign aimed at reducing gun violence under the slogan “Gun Crime Means Hard Time.”
Source: Hilary Hylton, Reuters Sep 21, 1999

Raise legal age for guns to 21; ban certain ammo
Bush said he supported efforts in the Republican-led Congress to raise the legal age for purchase of a handgun to 21 from 18 and to ban large ammunition clips.
Source: Reuters, “Bush favors raising.” Aug 27, 1999

No child-safety locks on guns; concealed carrying ok
Bush opposes mandatory child-safety locks on guns & supports the right of Texans to carry a concealed weapon. The Governor recently signed into law a bill that requires a locality to get approval from the state legislature before suing gun manufacturers. Bush supporters argue that the act does not interfere with legitimate gun lawsuits but rather curbs trivial legal action.
Source: Time Magazine, p. 38 Jun 28, 1999

No city lawsuits against gun manufacturers
Gov. Bush signed a bill that would prevent cities, counties & local governments from suing firearm and ammunition manufacturers for the public costs associated with gun violence. The legislation is commonly referred to as a “lawsuit preemption bill.” According to a spokesperson, Bush supports the bill because he believes that “in order to curb frivolous lawsuits, the attorney general should be the clearinghouse to review issues involving a legal product which is being misused for criminal purposes.”
Source: CNN.com/AllPolitics “Bush quietly signs” Jun 18, 1999

Gun restrictions OK within basic right to own guns
Bush opposed repeal of the 1994 assault weapon ban and indicated his openness to Clinton’s call to raise the age of legal handgun ownership from 18 to 21. But Bush opposed Clinton’s call for reinstituting 3-day waiting periods for gun purchases, saying he preferred instant background checks. And while he said he could support national legislation to extend such instant checks to purchases at unregulated gun shows, he’s made no effort to support a state bill that would have done just that in Texas.
Source: L.A. Times May 1, 1999

Gun show checks OK; ban guns near schools & kids
An aide to Bush said the governor has “consistently supported since 1994 the idea of instant background checks at gun shows to make sure the people we don’t want to sell guns to are not buying guns.” The aide noted that Bush previously signed legislation prohibiting anyone from carrying a weapon within 300 yards of a school, and holding adults criminally liable if they allow a juvenile access to a loaded gun.
Source: CNN AllPolitics Apr 30, 1999

Assault weapon OK; waiting period not OK
Bush expressed support for some gun control measures, including the ban on assault weapons and laws designed to keep guns out of the hands of juveniles. But he said he did not believe the waiting period for the purchase of handguns that is part of the Brady Act does much good, saying he prefers instant background checks.
Source: Dan Balz, The Washington Post Apr 25, 1999

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It's terrifying to think that this guy passes for "pro-gun" today; No Democrat would have dared to be this anti-gun even ten years ago, if they wanted to have any hope of being elected President!

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[This message has been edited by Brett Bellmore (edited September 14, 2000).]
 
RUGER, Bush almost has to say he favors assault weapons bans because if he didnt the liberals would say he is a radical gun nut bent on the killing of innocent children at schools. Hopefully he just says it to placate the masses. But I do see your point, ventura said it how it is to barbra walters, boy did she change topics quick.I think it is too late for a leader to do much I think it will be up to the courts at this point. The courts now determin public policy and what is right and wrong culturally, this country has let them become all powerfull and without a check and balance system against them.
 
The important thing is:

Cheney is no weakling, and will not sit quietly on things he disagrees with, even if he only makes noise in private while the press is away. Not that he's afraid of the press, but Bush may require he act that way :)

If they get Keyes in the cabinent somewhere, Bush is in for a good lecture on why gun rights are civil rights.

Add Ms. Rice into the cabinent and gun owners are doing very well indeed.

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I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me
 
Unless it is again passed by Congress the 1994 AWB will sunset on September 13, 2004.

Let's think back to what happened to Congress after that bill passed the first time in 1994. How many people here think a Congress that is either controlled by the Republicans (as seems likely) or with a razor thin Democrat majority (anything's possible in the next four years) will again pass a law less than two months prior to a national Presidential election that the last time cost the Democrats control of the House for the first time in decades?
 
You gotta be kidding. No politician is going to allow all assault weapons to be legal right before an election. The easy way out for them is to just roll over the law. The media would murder any candidates who opened the floodgates of assault weapons again. It would be political suicide.
 
a sample of the potential heat:

Both Sides Slam Allen On Gun Ban Reversal

By R.H. Melton
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday , September 15, 2000 ; B01

RICHMOND, Sept. 14 –– Political friends and foes alike jumped on U.S. Senate candidate George Allen (R) today for abandoning his opposition to a federal assault weapons ban in the heat of
the campaign.

"It's a very bad strategic mistake," said Paul Moog, of Alexandria, president of the Virginia Citizens Defense League, a gun rights organization.

"That kind of election-year conversion is insulting," added Mo Elleithee, campaign spokesman for Democratic U.S. Sen. Charles S. Robb, Allen's opponent.

Allen, who has enjoyed the strong support of the National Rifle Association and related groups over the years, opposed restrictions on assault weapons until Wednesday, when he announced he
would vote to extend the existing federal ban on those firearms when it expires in 2004.

Allen's announcement followed a Robb campaign stop in Arlington, where the Democrat reiterated his strong support for the ban in a key battleground area that polls suggest favors such
restrictions.

In the past, Allen had criticized an assault weapons ban as impractical. As recently as May, Allen called the current law banning 19 specific assault weapons "toothless" legislation.

Tim Murtaugh, Allen's campaign press secretary, said the GOP candidate made no flip-flop. Instead, Allen's announcement was consistent with the Republican's view that existing gun laws should
be enforced--and was also his pragmatic response to a federal statute that is already on the books.

"You can say one thing, but once you see [the law] in action, you can see that it's not doing any direct harm," Murtaugh said.

The gun ban aside, he said, "all Virginians should be aware that Governor Allen was, is and always will be there to protect the right of law-abiding citizens to own guns and protect their homes and
families."

Allen's new position seemed to alienate some of his core constituents, gun owners who had worked closely with the Republican since the 1990s, when then-Gov. Allen signed concealed weapons
legislation they wanted and vetoed a gun control law proposed for Fairfax County.

Murtaugh said the campaign had fielded some calls from disgruntled gun owners.

"Allen had been good--pretty consistent as governor," said Moog, whose group sent out an e-mail alert to 1,000 members in Virginia and "several thousand" more people interested in gun
ownership issues.

"If you are as upset as I am about Allen backing a Clinton gun ban, you need to call the Allen campaign right now and ask if this is truly Allen's position," the e-mail notice said. "We have had
eight years of gun control, and we are not in the mood for any more, especially from a conservative Republican."

Moog said: "Sometimes, these Republican candidates take gun owners for granted. Allen had been strong, but now he's mild and squishy. He's not going to pick up anybody, but he is going to
lose support." Moog said he yanked his Allen bumper strip off his car and is now undecided in the Senate race.

Elleithee, Robb's spokesman, said Allen had no credibility in pledging to continue the federal gun ban. "George Allen has failed miserably to earn our trust on this," Elleithee said.

Meanwhile, Republicans challenged Robb's credibility with a new television ad that recites education budget cuts the Democrat pushed while governor in the early 1980s. The General Assembly
rejected the cuts.

"We expect our children to tell the truth--shouldn't we demand as much from a senator?" the GOP ad says.

© 2000 The Washington Post Company
http://www.washingtonpost.com/cgi-bin/gx.cgi/AppLogic+FTContentServer?pagename=wpni/print&articleid=A9829-2000Sep14
 
What cue does Bush get from the leading gun lobby that so many of us $$$$$ support,
enforce the gunlaws on the books.
Skipping over the fact that you NEVER hear an
NRA rep say the word REPEAL ...(duhh whats that mean George?)
How can you enforce the gunlaws on the books
if you expire them?
Heehee and certainly we wont be safe if were not enforcing gunlaws LOL.
Ive heard it was Lott who pulled a repeal of the AW ban from the floor before so that it couldnt be voted on.
I cant confirm that but I know that same conservative republican (????,smack smack self whatd I say?) who the NRA our 'leader'
continues to endorse fully backed the juvenile injustice bill that contained every anti-gun measure Comrade Clinton was asking for.
When your being represented (NRA) the thought of repealing or expiring any of the our precious gunlaws is not brougt up.
Because thats not the kindve of america I was taught to love (compromise) when Im represented (GOA) all guncontrol laws are condemned as racist and facist and as the real crimes against the American people.
www.gunowners.org www.ccops.org www.jpfo.org

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