As Responsible Gun Owners How Would You Handle This ?

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Mike H

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Guys,

This situation arose today at my office.

A disgruntled employee with a history of mild personality problems, something fashionably referred to in these ultra PC days as "having social issues", was disturbed in his lethargy by his less than impressed manager. This peeved him no end and resulted in a barely muttered rant very much on the lines of "if that f****r speaks to me like that again I'm gonna get a knife and stab the b*****d". Certainly disturbing enough in its own right, but as I munched on my Government approved Socialist Sandwich Mk.1 during lunch break, I wondered what I would do if the guy had access to firearms. Would I sit there each morning bathed in sweat, wondering if he was going to arrive all tooled up for a little payback on his fellow employees. So if you were to come across a similar work situation where you genuinely believed a fellow gun owner was "on the edge" how would you handle it.

Regards,

Mike H
 
When a person is P.O'ed, many things are said. If they feel as if they have been "targetted" then anger interrupts the normal cycle of thinking.. happend to me. I would watch this fellow/co worker for a few days.. the cooling off period sort of speak. He may have been speaking out of his @ss (which many of us have done) and then thinks about it. After kicking himself for being so stupid, cools down, and then goes to work as normal. If he only said the words, once, in the open and didn't hit, bash, kick, or go home and get said knife it just may be an empty threat said in the "heat of passion" or "moment of emotion".... which BTW is how most anti's get started. Watch him for a couple of days and if they "can't get it off their mind" or actually speak openly about killing (stabbing) the boss then it may escalate into futher violence. I've said many things in my life.. but I've never produced or carried out the threat. Words of emotion.. we all know how it's killing us now.

USP45usp
 
Most companies today have policies about such. If you are a supervisor, shouldn't you know them?

Or talk to your supervisor. There is a large amount of literature on work place safety and dealing with troubled employees. It would be better to read it than ask nonprofessionals in human resources who are on this list.

If this is a serious question - you ask professionals and not us.
 
You supervise the person who made the threat, and you overheard it?

Then you get your fanny down to human resources and talk to their specialists.

If you don't have HR, then you still report it to your supervisor as an 'advisory' type thing, and see where that person wants to go for it.

It could be as simple as encouraging the person to seek counseling as a condition of maintaining employment.

Tread carefully, though, as there are scads of laws on subjects such as these.

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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.

If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
 
Enoch,

Unfortunatly many companies invest ZERO time and money into training supervisors on employee relations. I guess they figure that HR can pick up the pieces when something blows up.

My current company, a Fortune 500 hi-tech company, falls directly into this class. I find it to be a little more than disconcerting.

My former employer, though, was EXTREMELY proactive in training supervisors.

New supervisors had to take a whole series of required courses during their probationary period, then had to take a certain number of courses during the year.

These were provided by the company at no cost to the supervisor.

Even the President of the company, as head supervisor, had to take these classes.

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Smith & Wesson is dead to me.

If you want a Smith & Wesson, buy USED!
 
I'ld call the police and have them escort him off the property then file a restraining order.
And some place along the way - let him know you'll shoot him on sight if he shows up again.
 
CYA! Have some way of defending yourself against knife or gun. Contact your supervisor and tell him or her about this stressed person. Do not tell anyone how you have prepared your defense. See if you can get security to watch this person's activity for a few days. Again, CYA! (cover your @ss!) The life you save may be your own.
 
A few points: Any threat should be taken seriously. If the boss chewed him out in public I expect he would be less than pleased about it and might be exaggerating his response.

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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."

Better days to be,

Ed
 
Don't worry about it. People say stuff like that. People THINKING about doing stuff like that don't.

What IF he had access to firearms? What if he brought in a big box of poisoned confectionaries and left them in a central area?

Don't worry - if he wants to kill your boss it sounds like he'll do it in a manner that is politically correct, so don't worry about it.


Battler.
 
Well, I once got put on " probation "
for slamming a door at work.

( scared another employee )

Go Figger.

If the person in question has a "history "

of making empty threats - then they need

counseling - and bear watching.

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Mike,
I'd continue wearing my Kimber under my shirt. "Don't ask. Don't tell."

Any administrative action would depend upon my evaluation of the threat.

Some folks use the term "kill" with amazing ease and in near-total ignorance. Others? I'd believe it. It's a value judgement - rather like deciding whether or not to abide by laws and company policies or by the laws of survival and common sense.

It's your game, Mike. You must decide how to play the hand dealt to you. Keep your cards close to your vest. ;)

Good luck.

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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!
 
What IF he had access to firearms????? What makes You think he doesn't? ANYBODY with enough brains to chew gum and walk at the same time AND employment above minimum-wage levels has access to firearms if he wants them badly enough! Besides, as Battler said, there are lots of other things around, just as deadly, and a lot quieter.
crankshaft
paranoia is what keeps me looking over my shoulder even when they AREN'T following Me!
 
"... ANYBODY with enough brains to chew gum and walk at the same time AND employment above minimum-wage levels has access to firearms if he wants them badly enough! ..."

:eek:... :confused:... :rolleyes:
 
I would approach him "off the record". After this encounter, gauge whether you need to escalate the issue.

We have all said dumb things, and the last thing you want to do is wreck this guy over something like this if he was just blowing steam...

If, after talking to him, you feel like he might be serious, then you call in the big guns (no pun intended...)

Just my $0.02 (well, $0.00965 after the Justice Department stomped Microsoft.)

Ken
 
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