Arming an Older Woman

Schwerms

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A brief bit of background: My 61 year old mother is in the process of going through a rather painful divorce. The other party involved is unstable, and an all around crappy person. Soon, he will be moving out of the house, leaving my Mom alone in a rural area, with nothing to defend herself with other than a dog that would lick an intruder to death. I am writing this to both seek advice and feedback on the conclusions I've reached so far.
She has reached the point where she is ready to apply for her carry permit and purchase a firearm the very second he moves. I've had her shoot multiple times with me, but always just a few rounds here and there in the backyard. While she is not a complete virgin to guns, she's far from proficient at this time. I have been going over the options for what will suit her needs best, and simplicity is one thing that continually enters my mind... The less she has to think about in a time of stress, the better. First question: Revolver or semi? The simplicity of a revolver is alluring, but the long DA trigger pull is likely to make accurate shots harder for her. Also, the issue of capacity comes into play. Like I said, she's no Anney Oakley.
While I haven't ruled out a wheel gun entirely, I am leaning more and more towards a double stack semi-auto, chambered in 9mm. With so many options, I've come up with what I believe to be a good plan: Get her to the range ASAP, and have her shoot as many models as possible in an effort to see what she feels most comfortable with. After that, we head to the gun counter an pick out Mama's gun. DA/SA, striker fired, LEM style actions- Oh, the choices... In regards to striker fired models, I like the XDM a lot for this situation. Enough safety features to ensure it will only fire when intend, but no external safety that could easily be forgotten about in a time of stress.
Oh hell, I could go on for days... I am taking this entire situation very seriously, and I would greatly appreciate everyone's input and suggestions. Thanks guy!
 
You've answered the main question. She has to pick a gun that suits her, and needs to try as many as possible to pick one with which she's comfortable.

Does she have a shotgun in her home? It would be a good thing for her to have available in addition to any handgun she acquires. Possibly something in twenty gauge.
 
Even a .410 is fully up to the job.

Really a .410 is an often overlooked and under-appreciated long gun fully capable of doing the job.

Furthermore, .410s frequently are available in youth models which often fit women better to start with.
 
I've come up with what I believe to be a good plan: Get her to the range ASAP, and have her shoot as many models as possible in an effort to see what she feels most comfortable with. After that, we head to the gun counter an pick out Mama's gun.

This. Well done.
 
1. Get an additional dog. One suited for watch dog duty.

2. Get her the book called "Cornered Cat" then get her some self defense firearm training ( not just plinking paper targets). Even taking a hunter safety course would instill some firearms safety. Firearms safety should always be taught before teaching firearms.

3. A full size handgun is easier to shoot but harder to carry. Will she want a house gun or a carry gun? That will determine full size vs. compact. It would be best to learn on a full size handgun. Small guns are hard to master.

4. Closed hammer revolvers are probably the simplest (like a Ruger LCR). A Glock is probably the simplest of the semi-autos to fire.

5. If a shotgun.... then a 20 gauge pump (Remington or Mossberg) or a single shot break open. .410 shotgun is an option. Those Taurus Judge 410 /45colt revolvers might also be an option.

6. For her age and lack of firearm experience the largest caliber she should work up too and eventually carry is probably .38 or 9mm.

7. It would be a very good idea to start with a full size 22 handgun as a training tool to learn the basics before she has to learn recoil management.
 
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My 4'11" grandma was an Annie Oakley with her 30-30 but not a handgun, there were none in the house and the 12 gauge was to big for her. I'm inclined to think for house gun a youth model shogun in 20 gauge would fit her needs admirably but not to think about a handgun till you have had her try a variety. Don't discount the revolver either, My grandma's sister in Iowa used her husbands ex service revolver shooting single action to retire a mope who kicked in her door one night. Apparently he didn't believe her when she said she had a gun and when he saw the gun didn't believe she would shoot it. Old Bohunks who grew up on the prairies of South Dakota in the early 1900's didn't scare very easily. You didn't mention your moms size, her hand size or her grip so that and mechanical aptitude will play a role. That and as much range time as you can talk her into will do wonders for her proficiency and confidence level.

Also second her logging into Cornered Cat, and TFL if she is a computer user.
 
You've forgotten the most important thing

You've forgotten the most important thing. As soon as he moves out you need to have a locksmith re-key your Mother's house locks. It isn't "breaking and entering" if he has a key. If he can walk in on her a gun may not help.

Lot's of people don't want to spend the money to re-key locks (about $10 per lock, $20 for a dead bolt). Your area may be different.


After you've done that then you can proceed with all the other recommendations made here. But make sure she is resolved that if the man brakes a window or door she should be resolved to shoot and not be victimized.
 
And 61 sure isn't too old, don't be mislead that age is a big limiting factor. It does have an effect, but mostly this is her being resolved to protect herself from him or anyone else.
 
First change the locks, then look at other house security issues such as window locks. As others have suggested, have her visit The Cornered Cat. The site contains a lot of excellent information.
 
And 61 sure isn't too old, don't be mislead that age is a big limiting factor. It does have an effect, but mostly this is her being resolved to protect herself from him or anyone else.

I'll second that. Sixty-one isn't that old if she's in reasonable health. And doesn't think of herself as really old.

I'm qualified to say that, I'm 75...;)
 
Female Opinon

I am 66. I carry a S&W .38 Detective special and a Glock Model 22 in .40. I am very accurate at 50 yards. I did not need to go through a divorce I just started paying attention to the news..No one is going to blind side me. I am afraid that our society is headed in the direction of everyone needing to carry.
God Bless American and she really needs it.
 
I agree with the suggestions about improving the home's physical security.

Plan of action in regards to a firearm purchase, IMHO.

1) Get Grandma TRAINING- By learning from a professional, she can learn proper technique, and get quality instruction on using of handguns, in addition to the laws related to firearm use. I know in my state (IN) a person can keep a firearm in the home without a License to Carry a Handgun.

2) get Grandma HER GUN- Once she has recieved some training, it's time to pick out a firearm. Some choices need to be made. Hopefully, many of the questions will be answered based on the training session.
2a) FUNCTION: What will the gun be used for- home defense, concealed carry, bedside weapon, animal pests, etc.?
2b) PHYSICAL ABILITY: What can she fire competantly? Can she rack a slide easily, can she manage the recoil of a 20 guage, can she manage the grip of a revolver, etc?

3) Get Grandma PRACTICE- Keep her shooting, and continue to train as she is able.
 
I gave my mom a .38 wheel gun and 20 Gauge shotgun to keep at home with loads tailored to being easy to shoot, but still effective for anti-thug use. Can't get much simpler than that. She definitely wouldn't want anything remotely complicated or devoid of a real safety.
 
If your mom is not familiar with handguns, I'd suggest a .357 revolver loaded with some good 38 special defensive loads. S&W makes some really good 8-round .357 revolvers. I think Taurus might have 8-round revolvers as well.

Shotgun - someone suggested .410. It'll get the job done, but if it's just a double barrel, you only get two shots. Pump or semi-auto - perhaps too complicated.
 
Take a look at the Mossberg 500 HS410 pump shotgun. It only weighs 5.5lbs, holds 9 rounds of .410 and has a pistol style foregrip. A good friend's 12 yr old son & 10 yr old daughter do quite well with it.
 
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