Armed Citizen Stops Mass Shooting in Oklahoma City

Thank you armed citizen.
If 25% of citizens were armed, how much of "this cr.." would stop? My guess is the majority of it.
 
Somehow, I doubt the "lame stream" media will pick this up. This was probably more of a domestic dispute where the husband decided "If I can't have you, no one will." Glad the mother and child are okay and that an armed citizen was able to stop the shooter.
 
I was trying to read the "comments" to the story and just had to give up they are such a "you are"/"no, you are" mess.

It baffles me why the news outlets don't moderate their comment section.
 
Somehow, I doubt the "lame stream" media will pick this up.
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Believe it or not all the networks usually carry these stories.

ABC:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/civilian-shoots-kills-suspect-opened-fire-restaurant/story?id=55424657

CBS:

http://video-test.cbsnews.com/news/oklahoma-city-louis-grill-bar-shooting-today-2018-05-24/

CNN:

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/us/oklahoma-city-shooting/index.html

NBC:

http://kfor.com/category/news/

If you refuse to watch the so called "lame stream media" then don't tell me those networks don't carry these stories.
 
At least 2 outlets are indicating the guy walked into the restaurant with ear and eye protection.

According to OKCPD twitter feed:

One person has been taken to a hospital with serious injuries. A bystander with a pistol confronted the shooter outside the restaurant and fatally shot him.
 
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Both armed citizens had guns In their cars !! I don't know the rules there, but it takes a long time to get those guns !
 
So the guy walks into the restaurant and shoots it up while wearing eye and ear protection.
That's got to be a first.
Hat is off to the two responding citizens who ended this nightmare.
 
How that guy managed to stay licensed as an armed guard with the Youtube videos he was putting out is a mystery to me. And I happen to know that while he has not been arrested or cited by OKC police, he has certainly had a few interactions with them prior to this besides the one they reported.

The restaurant has a “ NoGuns “ sign
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Looks like their signmaker sent them a defective sign then, since it only disarmed the people who stopped the situation.
 
This has some very odd qualities.

We hear that a gun in your car or one not in the chamber is useless.
Those injured might have been spared surgery and pain but a gun close by was a lot better than no gun at all.

Second, 2 law abiding citizens followed the rules of the restaurant owner - they left their guns in their vehicles. So here is another example of just how law abiding, law abiding people can be. We know criminals don't care about laws but look at who does.
 
I wonder if the restaurant is going to change it's stance on "no guns" after this event. I still believe that private businesses who prohibit guns are responsible for the safety of their patrons. Businesses that fail to protect their patrons should be held liable.
 
No one is arguing that a gun in your car isn't as good as one on your hip. Point being, these guys had multiple obstacles to overcome and yet they did.

So what would those who are trained in confrontations say is the right way to handle a similar situation had they both shown up about the same time? The man who shot the attacker came into the restaurant and announced himself as someone to help and asked where the attacher was? This was incredibly smart so he got answers. But how you do you handle this if the next person he comes across is another would be hero. Have should you identify yourself without giving away your posiiton?
 
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No one is arguing that a gun in your car isn't as good as one on your hip. Point being, these guys had multiple obstacles to overcome and yet they did.
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And the other point is that these two people obeyed the law and the owner's prohibition of guns inside the restaurant, and their respecting the prohibition significantly interfered with their response time.

If we are finally learning that a good guy with a gun can stop a bad guy with a gun, we're also seeing that a good guy whose gun is outside somewhere is at a significant disadvantage.
 
Alright, before we suffer more arm and shoulder injuries patting ourselves on the back, like Sutherland Springs, the armed citizens did NOT stop a mass shooting. The armed citizens stopped a mass shooter who was fleeing the scene. The mass shooting happened and was over by the accounts given.

As the gunman ran from the scene, two bystanders got their own handguns from the trunks of their vehicles, then confronted and fatally shot the attacker outside the restaurant, Mathews said Friday.
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https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/24/us/oklahoma-city-shooting/index.html

Immediately after the shooting, Matthews told the media that a single civilian shot the suspect, but upon further investigation, it was determined that two men both shot the suspect.
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/civilians...ally-shooting-oklahoma-city/story?id=55424657

The mass shooting happened. The shooter was in flight from the shooting. The citizens did well, but they didn't stop the shooting inside the restaurant, but they did stop the shooter.
 
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DNS, the shooter was fleeing the restaurant where he had just randomly shot three people and all other targets fled. That area is a small collection of restaurants, parks and jogging trails next to a lake that serves as a reservoir for the city. The entire area is packed with people usually and you can walk easily from one bar/restaurant to the next. You can see the environment here: https://www.google.com/maps/place/L...2!3m1!1s0x87b21b0ceeec2c95:0xbb2717c2769d58fd

So, I disagree with your assumption that the “shooting was over.” Given the circumstances, I think it reasonable, and probably prudent, to assume the shooter was merely looking for additional targets rather than fleeing the scene.

Also, if we are going to be very pedantic, a mass shooting as defined by FBI did not occur because only three people were shot before the shooter was killed. To the extent the armed citizens stopped him from shooting more people, they did in fact stop a mass shooting, even though they weren’t successful in stopping the shooter 100%.

ETA: According to this report (https://www.themaven.net/bluelivesm...-armed-citizen-heroes-f0At5d0v00SEQYEfGVnBBA/), the shooter opened fire from the doorway of the restaurant into the restaurant. The two men who shot him were inside the restaurant when it began, escaped, got pistols out of their vehicles, and returned.
 
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