Armatix The future of firearms

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orisolo

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I just run into this one.
Its a "gun from the future".
It will not fire if you dont hold it.
They also produce a system for range where the gun needs to see a target before it will shoot.

interesting concept.

http://www.armatix.us/Smart-System.778.0.html?L=7

"Smart System consists of a radio-controlled watch that is responsible for gun access and use. A Smart System gun will only shoot if it is within range of this watch. It is possible to release the safety mechanism via the radiocontrolled watch activated by means of a PIN code. As soon as the gun loses radio contact with the watch – e.g. if it is knocked out of the shooter’s hand or in case of loss, theft, etc. – it automatically deactivates itself."

"The gun only functions if you are recognized and on target.

If you are aiming away from the target area, the pistol is immediately deactivated.
No misuse against people or objects around you."
 
Using high tech to make guns 'safer' has been discussed many times and opinions usually run against adding high tech items to the guns. (I'm (currently) against adding this stuff to a gun.)

I'll comment on just one of the systems they have - the Target Response System (TRS)

In defense of these folk they realize the TRS would be set up on practice ranges ONLY. They weren't trying to say these guns were for anything except range use. And, indeed their TRS system might actually cut down on the number of holes in range ceilings but of course only if ONLY TRS GUNS were used at that range, that is, you could not bring your own gun or use your duty gun.

Minnesota Public Radio this month (October) had another show on similar stuff, Dynamic Grip Recognition, the gun would 'recognize' your grip and only shoot for you and Wireless Safety, which I didn't catch enough of to understand. If anybody else got the Wireless Safety part of the show please post a link to it.
 
"Call the 1-800 number on the gun for approval from The State to defend yourself and disengage the safety lock.

Due to the increased number of calls, hold times are over 45 minutes, please be patient, you can also try our web application for faster service."
 
Its a "gun from the future".
It will not fire if you dont hold it.
They also produce a system for range where the gun needs to see a target before it will shoot.
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Armatix must have had a hand in designing all of my hand guns. None of them fire if I don't hold them. And, they all have systems designed to make sure the gun shoots only when its on target - ME and the sights that came with the gun.

There are so many things i don't like about the Armatix system, that I don't know where to begin. Let's just say I think the watch looks like something that Burger King gives away for free and leave it at that.:D

Afterthought: If the system is for "range use only", then why do they advertise that the watch is waterproof? Is this for the underwater ranges that will be built in the future?
 
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Too many obvious problems.

One is that an awful lot of folks quit wearing watches when cell phones became popular.

Two is that folks who do wear a watch often wear one for a particular fashion reason that one's not going to fit.

Three is that the person would have to wear this watch 24/7/365 if this is a defensive gun.

Four is that a person involved in a scuffle could easily have a watch torn off their arm.

So many others I could theorize.
 
Terrible idea. I don't wear a wristwatch, and if I did I wouldn't wear that clunker. And I bet they don't make one that's sized for women's wrists.

I'd bet, too, that the cost of the technology, if it's required by law, will effectively put gun ownership out of the reach of poorer people.

I'm also not a fan of complicated technology that, in practical terms, does nothing but add more things to go wrong with an otherwise simple mechanism.

And I just resent the whole idea on general principles. :mad:
 
Smart Technology?

Can it be tampered with?
Can it withstand high temps? Frozen temps? Immersion in water?
Does it require a power source?
Can the manufacturer require servicing?
Can the program be reset to a new owner if it stolen? Sold to another legal owner?
 
I believe this technology is already old. I don't think the idea itself is old, I just believe that in a very short order, we shall see guns that are totally biometric.
 
Too what purpose? I see this as a product that fits a need that only exists in someone's fantasy.

We already know that a large enough number of shooting happen with legally owned guns. So the owner matches gun thing is actually useless under current law.

What I see is someone wants to make guns that can't be used on people. If bad guys and nutty folks can't shoot at a person, then why would a cop need a gun? Just stupid logic.
 
Too what purpose? I see this as a product that fits a need that only exists in someone's fantasy.

We already know that a large enough number of shooting happen with legally owned guns. So the owner matches gun thing is actually useless under current law.
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The purpose from what I have seen is to make a patent holder rich. Like the supposed "gun owner" in Seattle promoting his "bullet stamping" ID system. These guys could not care less if their invention makes the gun work better, or the gun owner safer, or our country more free. They are chasing a dream to make a high tech gun for which they can own a patent, without having to actually design a better gun like Browning did. You know, that would take talent and engineering rather than just some good old fashion gee whiz shiny marketing.

Most people have a priority on their gun working properly when they draw, aim, and squeeze the trigger. Anything that slows that down or adds failure is not going to be accepted.

It is hard enough to make a reliable gun with relatively simple mechanical parts that will function perfectly in all types of climates, weather and circumstances. Electronics will not make it better for a very long time. electronics have finally become dependable for combat optics but in very limited models and they are comparatively expensive.
 
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