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I just bought a sporterized arisaka, and I was wondering if anyone knew of anywhere I can pick up the 7.7mm ammo?
 
actually I think PPU has dropped their 7.7 line. Hornady makes it but in limited amounts in small runs. the only place I've found to reliably have it in stock is Cabelas online but they apparently don't have it either. Grafs has a store brand made by hornady but they are often out of stock anywhere you look. Grafs has brass but it's spendy... sorry about your new sporter but it's going to be tough to feed.
 
Definitely a reloaders dream. But don't get discouraged because The brass is out there.

I'm going to be taking my 6.5 Type 38 Sporter out to the range tomorrow.
 
PCI makes (or used to make) some 150gr fmj in 7.7Japanese.
Norma makes some 174gr hunting ammo in 7.7
I have a bit of both. The PCI groups a bit below the 150 gr SP Hornady at 100 yards.
You can resize/fire form 8mm Mauser empties for reloading or cut down 30-06 cases for reloading.
They're great rifles; you'll have fun.
 
Hornady, PPU, Norma, S&B, ArmsCor, and Winchester ("Metrics" - it's re-branded S&B) all offer factory 7.7x58mm Jap. You may not be able to find any right now, but they do run it at least every year or two (depending on the brand).


Right now, Lohman Arms claims to have some of the Hornady 150 gr in stock.
 
keep in mind that lohman does not regularly update their website. I once ordered some hydrashok bullets from them and after 2 weeks of no updates I sent an email asking why it hadn't shipped yet and they informed me that they didn't even have them in stock...

just a warning.
 
I always made it by shortening '06 cases. I found the thicker neck would actually shoot better because of the sloppy military chambers. Most of the time I used .308Win load data and it worked find with no over pressure signs.

Tony
 
It's not difficult at all if you hand load. But it could be tough if you don't. I make my brass out of .30-06 with ease.

I have two of those rifles. Both shoot very well.

-TL
 
I don't make my brass but as far as data goes, as of hornady 8th ed and sierra 5th ed both companies publish load data for 7.7 jap.
 
my first series nagola 99 japanese original rifle with my reloads will cut bullet holes at 75yds from a good bench rest with the original peep sight.i load it to lower .308 speeds and it kills deer very dead. eastbank.
 
can we get some pics?

i am curious to compare it to my howa. supposedly the actions are very similar but never had the chance to see one up close

as the howa is the Modern verion of the ariska rifle im intrigued
 
Howa is not a modern Arisaka, Howa may have been one of the factories that made the arisaka, but they are completely different beasts.
 
Before you go and get ammo, or get set up to load the ammo, make CERTAIN that it is still a 7.7mm Jap.

Many of the sporterized Arisakas were rechambered, or rebarreled. And they don't always have the correct caliber marked on them.

I have even seen one "bubba" job in a shop, with a tag saying it was 7mm Rem Mag!:eek::eek:

If it is still a 7.7mm then reloading is your best bet. I have made brass from 06 cases, it works. I do have a bag of factory new brass (graf, I think) around here, somewhere...which I will use the next time I do a run of 7.7 ammo.

The proper loads for the 7.7mm Jap are the ballistic duplicate of the .303 British. The 7.7 uses the same bullet (.311-.312") and at the same speed as the .303 Brit.


This Arisaka is now a .308 Win. Extensively reworked metal (action) new barrel and new wood.

Nobody does this much, these days, its simply not cost effective today.



This is what it would have looked like, before....
 
Most cheap conversions involve rechambering without rebarreling. Mostly .308" projectile going down the original .311" bore. Accuracy would be compromised.

-TL
 
A popular conversion years back was to set the barrel back and re-cut to .300 Savage. I have seen many over the years and owned one. At 100 yards there was no accuracy problems. I never shot it farther than that, so maybe accuracy drops off. I had a 30-06 converted by the U.S. military, and I can not say that was too accurate. I still have one I converted to 7.62x39. I use 150 grain .308 bullets in it and it is VERY accurate. I started using the 150 grain Corlokts because they shot better than the .303 bullets I tried. At 100 yards, a couple thousandths really means nothing. That bullet expands as soon as it is fired.
 
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