I posted this at THR, may have some interest here...
OK - could not download a copy of this particular report, but I did find another similiar report "An evaluation of state firearms regulations and homicide suicide rates", from a Univ of Pittsburgh group.
Now - 1st thing, while looking at 5 different gun laws (shall issue, 2ea 21 yr age limit, etc.), they compare "homicide" and "firearm homicide" rates - NOT "murder", "gun related murder", or any other gun related crimes, so the reason for what exactly they were trying to prove escapes me; they mention however the attempt to study 'the benefits of shall issue laws enacted with the goal of curtailing fiream deaths' under the theory that THAT is the reason they are passed... [hmmmmmm...'K....thought they were enacted to give we, the people back the right to self-security, or to avoid letting we, the people be unwilling victims of violent criminals, or to...]
BUT ANYWAY, from Table 2:
Rates per 100,000...
Firearm Homicides [with shall issue law]: 5.00
Firearm Homicides [w/out shall issue law] : 5.90
All Homicides [rate with shall issue law] : 7.5
All homicides [rate w/out shall issue law] : 8.99
Summary Point 3::"A "shall issue" law that permits the carrying of a handgun in an unrestricted fashion may be associated with an increase in homicide rates."
WHAT????? But the numbers...right there...BOTH "w/shall issue" homicide rates were lower...???
And from Table 4 Suicides
Rates per 100,00...
Firearm Suicides [with shall issue law]: 9.70
Firearm Suicides [w/o shall issue law] : 10.20
All Suicides [rate with law] : 14.5
All Suicides [rate w/o law] :14.5
Summary point 4: "Little evidence was observed that any of the laws evaluated were associated with a significant reduction in either firearm homicide or firearm suicide rates."
GREAT - again, not that is a real issue, but what about the fact that...
THE CHARTS - YOUR CHARTS - show a reduction in not only Firearm Homicides, but all homicides AND a reduction in firearm suicides with shall issue laws vs. w/o shall issue laws;...so what the $^^$#???
THIS IS WHAT WE ARE UP AGAINST! TOTAL BS, EVEN DESPITE THEIR OWN NUMBERS THAT SHOW THE CONTARY - THEY MAKE ABSURD STATEMENTS LIKE "MAY" AND "SHOW NO SIGNIFICANT REDUCTION" without mentioning what the study REALLY showed:
"with regards to the enactment of shall issue laws, the rates of even firearm homicides and firearm suicides did not get worse, and in fact, they went down slightly. Giving the people the opportunity to defend themselves via shall issue laws in NO way made homicide/suicide rates worse, but instead overall made them slightly better."
What crap!!