Are Otis Cleaning kits worth the money?

sserdlihc

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I have read on TFL about the OTIS cleaning kits. In the past, I have used an OUTERS basic kit, then I would add other brushes,solvent, oil, old t-shirt strips when needed. Then I would store everything in and old Plano tackle box. I like the fact that OTIS kits have everything in a nice tidy little carrying case and the flexible bore rods. Other than that I can't seem to justify the expense. My little kit has served me well over the years.

Am I missing something here? Granted my old tackle box isn't much to look at but it does the job.

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What are your thoughts on these kits? Are they worth that kind of money?
 
I don't use packaged cleaning kits except for small traveling or field kits. Prefer to buy high quality cleaning components separately: one piece Dewey rods with proper size jags/tips, good brass brushes and mops of proper size, Shooters Choice Bore Cleaner, FP-10 or WeaponShield orWilson Ultima Lube oil, and cotton patches. Then I find a spare container of some kind to hold everything but the cleaning rods which hang on my reloading/work bench.
 
The US Military has alternated between solid or sectioned rods and pull throughs for over 100 years. They finally settled on the sectioned rod with the advent of the M1 Rifle. Recently people have reinvented the wheel and the pull through is back.

For a field rod, it was found that the pull through was worthless if the bore became clogged. In this extreme situation, the Otis is worthless, otherwise, it is a good kit.
 
I got my first Otis cleaning kit only because it was relatively cheap as one of the items available on a Springfield "Loaded" coupon. I liked the flex rod but thought the round slotted patches were a little too complicated and a little too expensive.

I used the Otis kit once in a while the first couple of years I had it but generally relied on my accumulated Dewey rods, individual components and remnants of Outers kits. (My two original kits date back to when they still came in metal boxes.) Then one day, when I was cleaning only handguns (I didn't have an Otis rod long enough for long guns) I decided to try the Otis kit again and, all of a sudden, I "Got It!"

For starters, I realized that, in cleaning different calibers, I needed to leave the Otis instructions open in front of me so I could see how to pinch and tuck the patches to match the caliber. The advantage here is that the patches are always fairly snug when they go through the bore as opposed to square patches which fit however they fit. It's almost like pulling a perfectly sized knot through the bore. It does a much better cleaning job than using a square patch. Since there are three sets of slots on each patch, and the crud is confined to the leading area around the slotted jag, each patch can be used three times helping to keep the cost ($.06/ea?) reasonable. Note: I always run a clean patch though last when I'm cleaning the barrel. But if I'm cleaning multiple guns that same patch makes the first two dirty passes through the next gun.

I don't like to run anything through a gun from the muzzle end if for no other reason than to keep from pushing dirt back into the action. The flex rod feeds from the breech end pushing any dirt ahead of it out the muzzle. If you need a handle to grip, there's a rod that slips crossways through the end cap and gives you a "Tee" to grab. If you're using a brush you don't have to take it off to thread the rod though a second (or third) time. Plus the rods have end attachments that keep the threads clean when they're in use.

So, as you might guess, I took the plunge and got one of their larger kits. I really love the flex rods for cleaning any long gun that doesn't have a straight shot at the chamber end, like pump and semi-auto guns. Just thread the rod in through the ejection port and you're good to go. I especially like this with .223's. Before you can pull a cleaning component through the barrel, you have to push a rigid rod in from the muzzle. In a small caliber like .223 it's almost impossible to do that without pushing crud into the action on the first pass. Plus you don't have to thread on a brush while you're trying to line it up in the action.

I've never liked boresnakes. At best I've never considered them useful for anything more than a quick cleanup at night in a campsite. But the Otis flex rods are a completely different kind of pull-through device. They only bend to about a minimum 4" diameter circle so if you hold then within about 4-5" of where they enter the barrel they act just like a rigid rod. They could clear a clogged barrel as well as any rigid rod and probably be safer for the barrel in the process.

So, Yeah! I think the Otis kits are worth the money.
 
In short, they work as well as your kit. I don't like the big padded case that they come in, but I haven't customized it either.

As noted above, for guns that you don't want to disassemble and clean through the action end, Otis works great. Also works great for revolvers. Keep threading the flex rod through until done.

Having said that, they have a specific use and I would buy one again. Neat toy. You can get by without it.

Zcarp2
 
I have one that I keep in my emergency bag (B.O.B.) since it's so compact. I think it's great for that purpose. It covers most pistol calibers, rifle and shotgun, so in a pinch, you're covered.
But for day to day use I use Dewey rods and other individual cleaning components.
 
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I love them. You can find them much cheaper if you look at ebay. Do a search for gun cleaning or Otis and you will find lots. I probably have 10 kits and a bunch of extra components.
 
I got my Otis 7.62 sniper kits for $30 from Gunbroker. They are really nice compact kits but I don't think they are worth the full retail price but if you can find deals go for it.
 
I use one. First of all, I make sure not to plug a bore. The little kit has everything in it you need. It attaches to your belt and you can take it along if you choose. I especially like it because it was given to me at the SHOT show. Love those freebies. I leave that show every year with enough free stuff to pay for my trip.:D
 
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