Arcus pistols

bspillman

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Thinking of picking up an Arcus 9mm. Anyone know what the going rate for them these days are? Also how are these guns holding up? Which model takes hi power parts? Thanks.
 
They are crap, don't buy one. Tell me the store where you are planning to buy so I can remove these pieces of crap from circulation. :D

I have the 98DA and I shoot it the best of all of my handguns. I have never had an issue with mine. I let a friend shoot mine at lunch one day. He ordered one that night. He now has three.

Not sure which model you are considering. They run between $300 - $350. I believe the model 94 can share mags and some other small parts with the HP. The 98DAC might also be able to share mags but I am not certain.

These guns are built like tanks. The finish is not top notch but they are reliable and accurate. I plan to get a 98DAC as a car gun.
 
All models (94, 94C, KA MKII/III, 98 DAC), except for the 98DA and the 95 (which is a revolver :D ) take the standard HiPower mags. The 98 DA uses a build for the model 15 rnd. magazine.
The quality/price ratio of those guns is hard to beat. The SA Arcuses share most of the parts with the HiPower. I successfully installed a HiPower SFS kit (with minor altering in the frame) and HiPower trigger - was drop in installation.
The 94 and 98 are using a lighter recoil spring compared to the HiPower - 15 vs. 17lb. This is possible because of the bit heavier slide. The compact versions - 98DAC and 94C are using 17lb. recoil spring.
Just like HiPower these guns are extremely reliable. Possible faults can be expected due worn-out extractor (FTE, Double Feed) and recoil (FTF, compromised accuracy) springs. All Arcuses are +P rated.
Just like said above the Arcuses are not the most handsome children in the HiPower family. The rather are the bullies of the bunch. The finish is ok...ish and if you're buying second-hand gun it will show signs of wear where it touched the holster.

The DA trigger pull of the 98DA/98DAC is quite heavy. On the other side, the SA after the first shot is a dream. The SA of the 94 is better (for me) than the one in the HiPower. There's much less grittiness compared to the BHP when the mag.disconnect is in place.
To the Arcus family you can also add the Kareen MKII/III. They are manufactured in the same facility and have some differences in the exterior - additional serrations in the front part of the slide, different trigger guard and always presenting beaver tail (the early Arcuses don't have beaver tail at all) and better finish.
Finding a holster made for those guns is mission impossible. The holsters for HiPower work fine, the ones for CZ 75 and CZ 75B also.
Here's a hint for Arcus users - if the serial number of your gun was not changed during the import, I might be able to tell you the month and year of manufacture :D

This is my EDC Arcus 94 with some modifications :

Polished and hot-blued slide and frame
Polished and cold-blued internals
Gold-plated Browning trigger
BHSS Springs except for the sear spring
SFS
Stabilzed Wood grips
Rhodium plated: Mag release, extractor, mag plate
Shots excellent, trigger pull in the ~5lb. range

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They don't share any hi power parts.

They are pretty crude and rough, but I guess they work.

About $300 to your door these days.
 
They don't share any hi power parts.

They are pretty crude and rough, but I guess they work.

About $300 to your door these days.

Are you sure about that. I had an Arcus 94 and I for a fact put a FN hipower extractor in it. I pretty sure I tried a hi power hammer and sear in it too.

Mark
 
Saw a Arcus 98da for $350 otd at a gun show in Raleigh NC this past weekend. I bought mine from Classic Firearms for $333 shipped.
 
Had an Arcus 98dac as my first semi auto. It shot well, and had very little recoil due to weight. Only problems I had with it were from running reloads with too long of an OAL.
 
@slaf4u

That is one nice looking Arcus! I really like the grips. I have been thinking about refinishing my 98. You have inspired me.
 
I could be mistaken, but I do believe that the 15 round mag is a carry over from the FEG produced R9 pistols.
Might be, I'm not familiar with the R9. What I meant was that 98DA's mag is not interchangeable with BHP ones .
Thank you for this info
 
I use a model 94 as my everyday carry pistol. I think it's an older model (MILTEX, INC importer markings) S/N 47PK1000X. Function is just fine. Have had Browning High Powers and this one compares well. Sights are a little small but it is a carry gun, not a target pistol. Carry mine in a Ross Leather shoulder rig designed for a 1911.
Has anyone tried High Power aftermarket grips on the 94? The factory finger grove grips fit me well but are smooth and slippery. Would like Pachmeyer grips if they fit as that is what my other guns have.
 
S/N 47PK1000X shows year of production 1997.
The grips from HiPower fit with minor adjustments.
The ones in the picture bellow are from our line of Masters Grips (unfinished) made for the classic HiPower. They would fit excellent if the Arcus had the small safety lever which is to be found in the pre MKII/III HiPowers. Because of the ambi safety and the slide stop of the SFS I can use grips from HiPower MKII/III.
Other than that, the after market grips for HiPower can't fill the grip of the Arcus as it's wider in it's upper part than Browning's one. You can see the effect on pictures 2 and 3. Those were made for MKII/III HiPower.

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Might be, I'm not familiar with the R9. What I meant was that 98DA's mag is not interchangeable with BHP ones .
Thank you for this info

The R9 was a Hungarian FEG produced double action pistol that had some outward similarities to the Hi-Power, also copied by FEG. While the slide closely resembled a Hi-Power's, the frame contained a DA lockwork very similar to a Smith & Wesson Model 59. The R9 mags were very similar to Hi-Power mags, but were 15 rounds.
 

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I bought an R9 some years back in the 80s when they first became available. The gun functions perfectly, is reasonably accurate, but has always left me cold for some (probably obscure subjective) reason. LOL

One thing about it: It fits larger hands better.
 
I, too, have been tempted by some of the off brand pistols that sell well under the prices for the regular stuff.
But the question of parts, service and such have usually made me decide against it and go for more mainstream models.
Anyone else have these concerns?
 
Sarco had these at sub $300 prices last I looked. They may still have some. No personal experience myself but I have heard only good things.
 
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