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are there any threads about archery on this site? if there is can someone point me in that direction please.. if there isnt anyone want to start one?


2 years ago i bought a brand new bear encounter bow 62 # draw weight with a 26 draw length and a 7.5 in brace hight and 80% let off. id have to be the only lefty in the family:D

$399 cabelas

using a factory site, a trophy ridge 2 pins 20 and 30 yards
trophy ridge 4 arrow quiver also factory installed
trophy ridge whisker biscuit factory installed ~small diameter
came with 4 easton powerflight 400 arrows ( i upgraded to Goldtip kinetic 400 series 9.5 grains @ 28.25 in)
topped off with a 125 grain mangus 2 blade broadhead.
at present i dont have fps, the bow was rated 330 by IBO

so far 1 deer a 100lb doe shot at 35 yards head on arrow exited n front of left rear ham ran 45 yards.
1 grouse 18 yards in clover patch near back shed, shot broadside, clean passthrough drt no tracking.

the last week of september 2016, i will give this set up a go at a bull moose:eek: near geraldton ontario on wild goose lake.
 
visit Archerytalk.com All archery stuff over there. This site is really about guns. Nothing wrong with visiting two sites a day :)
 
I'd second the recommendation for archerytalk.com.

It sounds like you have enough bow, but you can get LOTs of recommendations for arrow weight, broadheads, etc from people who have actually hunted moose with bows and pointy sticks.
Good luck! Sounds epic.
 
I bow hunt some, but it is not a priority. As said, while there is a hunting sub-forum on this site it is primarily geared towards firearms. Occasionally you'll see a post, but there are probably better places if you're looking for advice. But if you have specific questions it won't hurt to ask.
 
62 pounds is too heavy for deer. Really too much for Bullwinkle too. Our MNR has reduced the require draw weight for both sometime in the past 10 to 20 years.
2015 hunting regs are here. In there someplace there is the mandatory dimensions for broad heads. I'd be very surprised if the Magnus' were not just fine. Have 125 grain Thunder heads myself.
https://dr6j45jk9xcmk.cloudfront.net/documents/4458/mnr-hunting-summary-eng-tagged-apr15-final.pdf
Non-resident licence runs $483.48Cdn plus tax. Get practicing. snicker.
 
62 pounds is too heavy for deer.
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What? How can it be "too heavy". I've shot over 70 deer with a bow and I use a 54lb bow. However, it's impossible to have "too heavy" a bow. What's going to happen if you use more? Nothing detrimental, that's for sure. If someone's strong enough and a good enough shot to use an 80lb bow, it won't hurt a thing. All it's going to do is send the arrow farther past the deer after it passes through. I have a friend who uses a 70lb bow and he's shot at least a hundred deer with the bow over the last fifty years. He's also one of the best archers in the state. Your statement might be correct if you stated what you thought was the minimum weight requirement for a bow to achieve complete penetration.
 
Just like guns everyone has their own opinion.

I hunt in a lot of thick forest so 14-20 yards is the average range so 50-55 pounds works just fine for deer.

I've heard of people shooting 70-100 yards with an 80 pound weight and they can do whatever they want. I have my way and they have theirs.
 
Just like guns everyone has their own opinion.

I hunt in a lot of thick forest so 14-20 yards is the average range so 50-55 pounds works just fine for deer.

I've heard of people shooting 70-100 yards with an 80 pound weight and they can do whatever they want. I have my way and they have theirs.
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No argument from me on bow weight. I can shoot a deer at five feet with an 80lb bow just as easy as I can with a 54lb bow. Regardless of the distance, you're never at a disadvantage at any distance with a heavier bow as long as you can shoot it well enough. Can a deer be shot too dead?
 
appreciate the info i will check out that other site.:o

as far as velocity goes i did come across a site that could help you get an estimate you might say, by shooting an arrow at 20 yards and backing off to 40 yards aim for the spot your 20 yard arrow hit and measure the distance between them. i will have to revisit that one. the draw back to short draw lenghts is the loss of velocity but at point blank ranges for archery ( 1 - 25 ) i dont think speed means much

minnesota dropped the minimum weight too, sometime back from 40 to 30. i see lots of skinny swamp donkeys anyways im sure 30 would do fine, look at ted nugent he shooots 40 or 45 pounds always a pass through.
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I used to hunt with guys that used long bows with draw weights up to 120 pounds. They seemed to get elk every year. My compounds are turned down to 45 pounds so I can relyably hit instead of shakeing. I prefer Bear Satelights for my blades either three or four blade and 32 inch long carbon Easton arrows.

If you are hunting birds you should get yourself some flou flou arrows. I keep one in my quiver with a field point just for grouse.

I was drawn for multi season deer this year. Last year I had multiseason deer and elk so I have to be able to hunt with a sliver shooter, charcoal burner and modern. Recently I have been carrying a Uberti Walker as backup when archery hunting as I always have a bear tag and I am not going to use a bow against a bear.
 
I am glad I read this. I was pulling 70 pounds and shooting a Mathews Z7 Xtreme. I had a stroke and then could not pull 60 pounds using a Mathews Helium and a Bear Anarchy, but slowly worked my way back to 60. I don't think I will be able to shoot 70 anymore and was about to lose interest. I never hunted just shooting in the back yard and a little competition. The stroke and being 68 years old makes a little over 60 my limit now. I picked up my bow yesterday and it felt good. I don't know if I want to put my pistols down and pick up my bow or what. Hard decision for an old man.
 
Somewhere in my files there's a test result on the effects of bow strength and arrow weights on game animals.
If memory serves, the heavier the arrow, the sharper the broadhead, the better the result.
With draw weight of the bow and the velocity of the arrow being a very distant consideration.

I am not going to use a bow against a bear.
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If anyone has ever been to the Bear Archery museum, there's some very impressive trophies that Fred Bear got with his trusty bow.
For the dangerous game, he said he usually had a friend or guide backing him up with a large rifle.
 
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I shoot a carbon knight compound at 55 lbs and just recently have taken up traditional archery with a wooden longbow (MUCH more fun!)--no sights--at 40 lbs. I practiced with a master Lakota boyer--believe me you can drop a bison with these things. While I don't understand the "downsizing" of draw weight either, I can only conclude they want to make it "more sporting" by limiting your range by the draw weight--same reason many states have crossbow prohibitions.

As explained to me, the point isn't about ultimate kinetic energy/velocity for a pass-through so much as the broadhead seating in the tissue after cutting a wide wound channel (a la Zwicky eskimo) and then continuing to cut internal tissue as the animal runs with the arrow lodged.
 
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I found a Howard Hill wooden longbow at Marden's the other day for sale--about $200. It was a bit scratched up but I thought about buying it anyway--but it is a lefty.
 
Well, as long as this is an archery thread anyway. I don't bow hunt much anymore, but still use my Bear recurve or a long bow. I put camo tape on the recurve so long ago I don't know the weight anymore. I believe it is #43 @28". It was cracked at the riser (As if some one sat on it) and I glued and screwed it. Took quite a few deer with it and still use it. At one time there was no bow weight limit in PA., but I think it is now #30. Anybody remember Bob Swinehart? When I was a kid there was a picture of him on the front page of the Morning Call newspaper(Allentown, PA) posing with an elephant he killed with a bow. You will never see that again. That paper is now run by liberals and socialists (Possibly Commies too). I have not bought that paper in years. Anyway, good luck with the bow hunt.
 
And don't forget about Byron Ferguson, archery long bow trick shot extraordinary.
I started with a recurve, before there were compounds, switched to those magical compounds for awhile, and then went back to a recurve for the challenge for 3D matches.
Loads of fun, especially when outscoring the folks with their modern complicated compounds.
A good source of inexpensive, but extremely high quality recurves is old Olympic style target bows.
I use one barebow (no sights or other gizmos) and it really does outshoot my other recurve by an impressive amount.
And it cost less, too.
Just a thought.
 
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