AR-15 Ammunition Recommendations
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What's the bbls twist & what are you planning to do with it?
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I recently discovered this website, and found this smoking deal on there...
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/cPath/24_83_105/products_id/2131
That's what I'm going with within a few weeks or so. I'm not getting that much, probably just picking up a couple hundred rounds, but they sell it in bulk at 500 rounds and 1000 rounds if youre interested. $38.00 for 100 rounds of .223 is a hell of a deal... that's $0.38 a round. Compare that to what itll cost you for Remington, which goes for anywhere from $0.60 a round to $0.90 a round. I know you get what you pay for, but Wolf (which will never touch my gun) goes for around $0.30 a round, and the stuff I posted from the reviews ive read is much better than Wolf. Ill pay the extra $0.08 for the stuff from ammunitiontogo
http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/catalog1/product_info.php/cPath/24_83_105/products_id/2131
That's what I'm going with within a few weeks or so. I'm not getting that much, probably just picking up a couple hundred rounds, but they sell it in bulk at 500 rounds and 1000 rounds if youre interested. $38.00 for 100 rounds of .223 is a hell of a deal... that's $0.38 a round. Compare that to what itll cost you for Remington, which goes for anywhere from $0.60 a round to $0.90 a round. I know you get what you pay for, but Wolf (which will never touch my gun) goes for around $0.30 a round, and the stuff I posted from the reviews ive read is much better than Wolf. Ill pay the extra $0.08 for the stuff from ammunitiontogo
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Here is a good place to look!
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...o.x=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_requestid=31456
Here is a good place to look!
http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/t...o.x=0&_dyncharset=ISO-8859-1&_requestid=31456
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Pete
Time to start reloading. If I had to pay $0.38 per round, I couldn't afford to shoot. Assuming that you have brass, you can reload for about $0.20-$.22 per round or less( about 10 cents per bullet 55grain FMJ, three cents for the primer and seven cents for the powder - 25 grains from a $20 a pound can.) Buy in bulk or find better prices and you can be at half of the $0.38 figure. For the kind of money that you are talking about spending, you could buy everything that you need to start, including components.
Pete
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DigMe said:
Yeah I just saw that. Im pretty happy let me tell you
I am not trying to be disrespectful,just talking straight.
If a guy wants to have fun blasting on a budget, a 10 rd SKS is hard to beat.
Feed it steel,brass,norinco,baurnal,wolf...it won't care and it is cheap ammo.
You have a nice AR. Instead of burning the barrel up,aim and squeeze each shot for accuracy,like it is a bolt gun that strokes itself.Make hits,not dust and noise.Think precision.Think of your ammo as part of that precision,not bangfodder.
Graf's might still have some Lake city primed brass semi-reasonable.There are folks who sell processed once fired brass.That is probably cheapest.
I would size it again as You don't know how worn their dies are.
Did you say you have 1-9 twist?.There are 62 gr boat tail fmj's Hornady makes a good one.I use 69 grain Sierra MatchKings or Nosler Comps.
There are other powders,but Varget works for me.
Our government thinking "Budget Minded" about ammo had a lot to do with the AR/M-16 troubles.
Learning to make good ammo is the best way to make your AR work.
If a guy wants to have fun blasting on a budget, a 10 rd SKS is hard to beat.
Feed it steel,brass,norinco,baurnal,wolf...it won't care and it is cheap ammo.
You have a nice AR. Instead of burning the barrel up,aim and squeeze each shot for accuracy,like it is a bolt gun that strokes itself.Make hits,not dust and noise.Think precision.Think of your ammo as part of that precision,not bangfodder.
Graf's might still have some Lake city primed brass semi-reasonable.There are folks who sell processed once fired brass.That is probably cheapest.
I would size it again as You don't know how worn their dies are.
Did you say you have 1-9 twist?.There are 62 gr boat tail fmj's Hornady makes a good one.I use 69 grain Sierra MatchKings or Nosler Comps.
There are other powders,but Varget works for me.
Our government thinking "Budget Minded" about ammo had a lot to do with the AR/M-16 troubles.
Learning to make good ammo is the best way to make your AR work.
CLearning to make good ammo is the best way to make your AR work.
I've heard that from several extremely reputable sources now a couple of which have numerous national titles under their belt from Camp Perry.
From just about every authority in the AR-15 arena you will here that although they are superior rifles in their own arena they can be finicky about what particular ammunition you feed them.
That's not saying your particular AR won't shoot well on inexpensive ammo. It might and it might not. You'll simply have to see what works well in your application and what doesn't. For instance my cousin has a BushMaster that does pretty well with Winchester White box FMJ 55 gr while my Wilson Combat UT-15 doesn't like that ammo so well for reasons that only somebody with far more expertise than myself could only tell you and The wilson cost twice what the bushmaster does. Will the Bushmaster out shoot the Wilson? Maybe if you're feeding them both Winchester whitebox but feed them each their preferred ammo and the Wilson will most likely out shoot the Bushmaster. At least I would hope it would...lol
The point is that just like any other weapon they'll function better with certain ammo on board. The trick is finding what the weapon performs best with. Like mentioned before. with a 1:9 twist you'll want to stay away from the heavier bullets. 52g-55g would be a good place to start. Don't go any higher than 68g according to the authorities higher grain bullets require 1:8 or greater.
Roach
I've heard that from several extremely reputable sources now a couple of which have numerous national titles under their belt from Camp Perry.
From just about every authority in the AR-15 arena you will here that although they are superior rifles in their own arena they can be finicky about what particular ammunition you feed them.
That's not saying your particular AR won't shoot well on inexpensive ammo. It might and it might not. You'll simply have to see what works well in your application and what doesn't. For instance my cousin has a BushMaster that does pretty well with Winchester White box FMJ 55 gr while my Wilson Combat UT-15 doesn't like that ammo so well for reasons that only somebody with far more expertise than myself could only tell you and The wilson cost twice what the bushmaster does. Will the Bushmaster out shoot the Wilson? Maybe if you're feeding them both Winchester whitebox but feed them each their preferred ammo and the Wilson will most likely out shoot the Bushmaster. At least I would hope it would...lol
The point is that just like any other weapon they'll function better with certain ammo on board. The trick is finding what the weapon performs best with. Like mentioned before. with a 1:9 twist you'll want to stay away from the heavier bullets. 52g-55g would be a good place to start. Don't go any higher than 68g according to the authorities higher grain bullets require 1:8 or greater.
Roach
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I know I will killed here but, I shoot the Wolf 55 gr in my Rem R15. Prob 1500+ rounds and have never had a problem. I think if you keep your gun clean and don't leave any rounds in the chamber for an extended time, you should be fine.
FireForged
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Do not buy reloads/remanufactured ammo and I would suggest that you do not use WOlf ammo in your AR.
Cheap ammo that I have been happy with:
Sellier & Bellot
Other ammo I like
Federal AE
Winchester 3131
IMI
Ammo I had problems with in my AR
Wolf
PMC
Cheap ammo that I have been happy with:
Sellier & Bellot
Other ammo I like
Federal AE
Winchester 3131
IMI
Ammo I had problems with in my AR
Wolf
PMC
protectedbyglock
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Those federal 223s in the value pack at walmart seem pretty decent.
I just picked up 200rnds over the last couple days.
They are $39/100, but reloadable.
May want to check into them.
I just picked up 200rnds over the last couple days.
They are $39/100, but reloadable.
May want to check into them.
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buy whatever you can get for practice. remember hitting the target repeatedly is easy. the real training comes in if you do have to clear a malf and then get your wits back together and hit the target.as for me i trust wolf.... all the other nice stuff is great if you can get it, but in todays world if you can get it and it shoots reliably then use it. i dont know of anyone who wants to get shot with any bullet, even a 223 made by wolf or brown bear. there seems to always be alot of bias toward steel case or steel jacketed stuff. i shot a deer with 203gr bimetal sp in 7.62x54r out of an m44 carbine. the bullet(steel jacketed) literally detonated inside the deer and left a clean through and through hole that was 3x3in. an arm would go throught the hole.so much for non expanding steel jacketed sp ammo. look the long and short is that some guns do fine with it and some dont. get some of each and try it. dont get pushed around by the "experienced poster". been there done that, learn by doing. learn something with each trigger pull good or bad. wolf is not going to ruin your gun. i have read more bad stories about brass ammo blowing up ars than wolf. keep your ar clean and you wont have problems. "Bring the Rain" Molon Labe!
buy whatever you can get for practice. remember hitting the target repeatedly is easy. the real training comes in if you do have to clear a malf and then get your wits back together and hit the target.as for me i trust wolf.... all the other nice stuff is great if you can get it, but in todays world if you can get it and it shoots reliably then use it. i dont know of anyone who wants to get shot with any bullet, even a 223 made by wolf or brown bear. there seems to always be alot of bias toward steel case or steel jacketed stuff. i shot a deer with 203gr bimetal sp in 7.62x54r out of an m44 carbine. the bullet(steel jacketed) literally detonated inside the deer and left a clean through and through hole that was 3x3in. an arm would go throught the hole.so much for non expanding steel jacketed sp ammo. look the long and short is that some guns do fine with it and some dont. get some of each and try it. dont get pushed around by the "experienced poster". been there done that, learn by doing. learn something with each trigger pull good or bad. wolf is not going to ruin your gun. i have read more bad stories about brass ammo blowing up ars than wolf. keep your ar clean and you wont have problems. "Bring the Rain" Molon Labe!
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Ratmachine said
"I know I will killed here but, I shoot the Wolf 55 gr in my Rem R15. Prob 1500+ rounds and have never had a problem. I think if you keep your gun clean and don't leave any rounds in the chamber for an extended time, you should be fine."
Nothing wrong with wolf. Over time it will take a toll on your extractor. Reason so many people do not like it is when you shoot steel cases they will not expand like brass. Becasue of this you get blow by which builds up, why people say it is "dirty" ammo. When you get this build up and run a brass round in it the brass will expand and get stuck. That is when people panic and think something bad wrong happened. Like many say and you will hear this time and time again...keep the gun clean. Simple as that. I have Wolf stocked up for a rainy day and do not shoot it on a regular basis. I have a 1/7 twist rate on a Colt match barrel. My gun likes longer bullet for stability. If I want to shoot up the country side I install by M-261 and run 500 rounds of bulk 22 through it for fun. When finished I run a couple of FMJ's down the tude to "clean" it out.
"I know I will killed here but, I shoot the Wolf 55 gr in my Rem R15. Prob 1500+ rounds and have never had a problem. I think if you keep your gun clean and don't leave any rounds in the chamber for an extended time, you should be fine."
Nothing wrong with wolf. Over time it will take a toll on your extractor. Reason so many people do not like it is when you shoot steel cases they will not expand like brass. Becasue of this you get blow by which builds up, why people say it is "dirty" ammo. When you get this build up and run a brass round in it the brass will expand and get stuck. That is when people panic and think something bad wrong happened. Like many say and you will hear this time and time again...keep the gun clean. Simple as that. I have Wolf stocked up for a rainy day and do not shoot it on a regular basis. I have a 1/7 twist rate on a Colt match barrel. My gun likes longer bullet for stability. If I want to shoot up the country side I install by M-261 and run 500 rounds of bulk 22 through it for fun. When finished I run a couple of FMJ's down the tude to "clean" it out.