Apartment Loads

[damiano]

Since I'll be moving soon, I need to refigure my HD loads. Right now I live on a 5 acres in the middle of the forest so I have no worry about overpenetration. I'll be moving into an apt and want to change my loads so if anything ever were to occur, I'd lessen the likely-hood of hurting someone unintentionally. (No, not the bad guy!) Does anyone have any good suggestions. My home guns run like this:
Colt .45 1911A1 under the pillow
Sig 226 9mm strapped under my computer desk
PPK .380 in the breadbasket
870 12 gauge under the sofa
Petronius the Cat for Cat-Fu attack

Would anyone mind recommending some loads for each of those? My apt is on the far end of the Apt building with no one on my right, but my left still has apts with no firewall between us. Any suggestions would be much appreciated and respected.

damiano

 

[ohen cepel]

When faced with this in the past I went with MagSafe since they are prefragmented and shouldn't penetrate the walls. Glaser would also be a good option.
I also went with smaller shot in the shotgun (#4's).
However, since you are dealing with autos (I'm a .357 revolver guy) I would do more research. I don't like loading autos with things that I haven't run boxes of the ammo through. With the Magsafe/Blaser that will get real expensive fast.
Maybe the Triton QuickShok will fit the bill for you.
You might have to get the cat declawed also, getting too close to civilization for him to be packing concealed weapons.

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[RWK]

Damiano,

I am concerned that pre-fragmented rounds (such as MagSafe) will not achieve the 10, 12, or more inches of penetration required to immediately incapacitate a grave danger under some circumstances. This topic has been discussed repeatedly on TFL (you may wish to check the archives). I am more convinced than ever (having just read a detailed FBI report) that shots through the arm, from the lower torso to the heart/lungs, and so forth need "double digit" penetration to reach the vital organs (especially including the heart and the central nervous system) that can stop a threat instantly.

This said, multiple dwellings and carry-through (particularly for misses) are a legitimate concern. To address this issue in my own townhouse, I use Federal's 230 grain HydraShok in my H&K USP .45 Tactical. My rational is simple:
a) The 230 grain .45 ACP round has a relatively low muzzle velocity
b) However, it's mass is large and tests demonstrate it will provide 10+ inches of penetration
c) With its low speed, expansion could be an issue, but the .45 is essentially "pre-expanded" plus the HydraShok design has an excellent expansion record
d) .45 ACP loads in general -- and the 230 grain HydraShok in specific -- are proven "stoppers"
e) Because of its comparatively low velocity and the HydraShok design, I hope that carry-though to adjacent dwellings will be minimized (especially in comparison to a .357 magnum, for example)

In essence, I believe this is an intelligent compromise that offers excellent immediate threat termination plus reduced carry-through risk.

[This message has been edited by RWK (edited September 09, 2000).]

 

[Juan Hunt Greer]

Damiano: OT, but Your cat's name is Petronius? As in Petronius the Arbiter? Have You been reading Heinlein's " The Door Into Summer"?
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