Anyway to get a bigger beaver tail on a cz/tz/eaa type gun?

Andrewh

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I have the springfield p9, and just started to use it in idpa. I get a little hammer bite from it most times, but with some of the grip changes required by some of the stages, it is now taking skin.
I can tell the beaver tail on it is part of the frame, but is there anyway to add on to it, or is a hammer change my only way out?
 
Being as the beavertail is part of the frame...the only thing you can do would be have a smith build it up (weld) and reshape it
to suit your needs....expensive....!

Depending on what hammer you have on it presently, you could easily replace the hammer with another....CZUSA offers different
hammers for the 75/85 series guns that may work...or check out
the other clones for what you like and will not shred you anymore.

If you have the standard spur type hammer, you could add a CZ Compact style hammer to it....no spur and its rounded with the hole thru it....might work.

Thats all I can tell you....Shoot well
 
Thanks. I will look into the spurless hammer. I was afraid I was going to have to go for the old 1911 style one.
 
Years back, before the availability of custom parts, a popular fix for 1911 hammer bite, was to hacksaw a horizontal slot in the grip safety tang. A 1/8" inch thick steel plate, nicely curved, was then soft or silver soldered in the slot. This extended and widened the tang.

Another fix would be to saw the end of the tang off, forming a flat. Have an extended piece of metal TIG welded in place. If you're careful about letting the heat spread, you could silver solder the peice in place.

On my old Springfield P9, I just rounded the sides of the hammer spur off. I found that I was getting battered by the sharp edges, not pinched ala the 1911.
 
I am pretty sure I am being pinched by it, but I will try rounding it off with some sand paper first. Seeing as how I just looked and hammers can be 35-70 bucks. Not counting the labor to put one in.
 
Expensive to do..but you can have it welded..Years ago I used a P9 as an IPSC open gun...my gunsmith took a pice of a 1911 grip safety and welded and dressed it back down to a very nice and comfortable piece of work..do it again?? yup..

I would check into George Smith at EGW..he does fantastic welding...I believe Pete Carber at CAC guns would be able to so too..

I would think that the smiths that offer a beavertail on a hi power would be able to do this modification..but for sure..it won;t be cheap to be done correct..


photo is from EGW site
 

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Thanks eerw, but I am on a budget, and when it is almost or more expensive than another gun, I will find another gun.
I will go the cheaper route and see about hammer changes first. If that doesn't solve it, then I will think about trading it in for another.
 
eerw...

I would like to see some more pics of that hipower...is that your gun? If so, who did the work? List details of modifications. Thanks!
 
Never mind...apparently I can't read...please post the address for EGW's site in case I have trouble finding it...Thanks!
 
ANDREWH:
I don't mean lightly round the sharp edges of the hammer a little.
I mean ROUND them off with a grinding stone in a Dremel tool. The hammer is a very hard steel, so you need a stone to cut it. I put about a 1/8" to 3/16" radius on the top rear edges of the hammer. You want it well rounded. Touch up with some cold blue.
 
Sundance..

Check here for some hipower work

http://www.customarms.com/hipowerpictures.htm
http://www.egw-guns.com
look under gunsmithing services - other guns
I also believe garthwaite does the mod and so does cylinder and slide..possibly novak and wickmann too

andrewh..then I would suggest...
you can remove a bunch of metal from the hammer to avoid the pinch..I think this a similar type mod that wickman, novak and c&S does to avoid the expensive welding and get rid of the hammer bite..
 
Can you remove too much? That is, does the hammer strike need a certain amount of weight in addition to the spring power?
At one point I thought about cutting into the circle with a hack saw and yanking out the back half of the hammer is why I ask.
 
Within reason, it shouldn't cause problems. Just remember, that hammer is HARD. You can't hacksaw it.
I've seen several guns thathad the rear of the loop cut away to lighten it. It looks Ok, and would eliminate the pinch.
 
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