Anyone willing to do a QuickLOAD favor?

tobnpr

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Another forum...
Guy is loading fast-burning pistol powder (reduced load) into .22-250 with jacketed (not cast) bullets...
I suspect it's borderline insanity. I'd love to know what his chamber pressure spikes are.

Don't really want to get into a thread on this, but am wondering if anyone would be willing to run the numbers...
If so, please respond here or PM, and I'll provide the data.

Thanks in advance.
 
An old universal load for any 30 caliber gun for plinking that Rocky Raab used to recommend and that he loaded for his grandkids was 9 grains of Unique. I've used 8 grains of it with 150 grain pulled M2 Ball bullets for firelapping .30-06. As little as 5 grains of Bullseye with 100 grain half-jacketed bullets is something my father used to shoot.

The thing I would not do is load a high power rifle cartridge to full pressure with fast powder. Pressure rises rapidly with small percent changes in charge weight of fast pistol powders as you get to high rifle pressures, so errors have more potential to cause trouble and consistency from round to round is more difficult to come by.
 
UncleNick, question. Isn't large bore diameters, or more specifically large bore diameters with conventional non magnum case capacities, more forgiving of reduced loads like this,or am I wrong in thinking that?
 
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Not answering for him- but it's my understanding that overbores like the .22-250 are not suitable for this (as compared to say, the .223). But this is beyond my area of handloading knowledge, and Hodgdon does indeed have the data mentioned above, though the load in question is using a faster powder.

Still hoping for QL....
 
5whiskey,

For a given case length and a given bullet sectional density, a straight wall case has the most rapid expansion. That is, the bullet doesn't have to go as far down the barrel to double the volume the powder is burning in. For a given pressure and bullet sectional density, the acceleration will match, but a bottleneck case will experience less expansion, giving more time for the powder to burn and evolve gas. Thus the bottleneck case will be loaded with slower powders. The caliber here doesn't matter, just bullet sectional density and pressure do.

Faster powders, as normally used in a straight wall case, tend to be less problematic when reducing loads than slow ones do. Faster powders tend to ignite more consistently at lower pressures and temperatures because they lack the heavy deterrent coatings of slow powders. This allows them to work where there is a lot of empty space in the case because that empty space makes it harder to achieve the pressure and temperature level a slow powder needs for good, consistent ignition. At the same time, if you've ever blown air through a regular drinking straw and then tried to do it through a cocktail straw/stirring stick, you know the small hole makes it a lot harder to relieve the pressure in your lungs. In an overbore cartridge, if the pressure from a reduced load is too low to make a good job of sealing the case against the chamber, that means there is more time for pressure to leak out around the case. So, bottom line, yes, overbore cases are less suitable in that there is a narrower band of pressure over which they will work well with the reduced load.

Tobnpr,

Send me the information you have by PM and I'll let you know if I need more detail to create a good QL estimate.
 
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