anyone shoot game with a nos etip bullet yet?

my 7mag really likes them but im skeptical about there performace on game.

I haven't used them yet at all. I have to ask why the doubts about a mono-metal bullet? Barnes TSX have been working well enough to develope an almost cult like following. I'm sure Nosler did their research before this bullet came out.

They are a guilding metal instead of sold copper like Barnes, I guess they woud be closer to the Hornady GMX. I like Nosler bullets and wouldn't hesitate to try an E-Tip if it shot well out of my rifle. I've just never bothered to try them as I don't have to deal with lead bullet bans yet, and the plain old BT, AB, and Partition still get the job done.
 
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A-ha, E-Tips. Capitalization and punctuation helps. it looked like a misspelling of 'nose tips'.

My brothers Ruger M77 7MM mag likes the 168 gr and 180 gr Nosler Tips.
 
taylorforce barnes bullets are exactly why i have doubts. I do alot of crop damage shooting of deer and have the oportunity to shoot alot of deer and test alot of bullets and the original barnes bullets did not do well. They would punch a small hole through a deer and very few died quickly. Ive heard the new barnes bullets are much better and with some reservation have loaded some up to try this year. One thing ill say so far is they sure do shoot better then the old ones. I too dont need any non lead bullets but just like trying differnt things.
 
1. Partitions are the best bullets ever made and nothing's beat them yet IMHO. I've never had them fail me or not group well in any caliber I've loaded them.

2. I've never had a bullet copper foul a barrel so bad and so quickly as the Barnes X-bullet. It took me a full day to get the barrel clean and I'll never touch them again. Guilding metal might work better.

3. I've seen game shot with Nosler ballistic tips (lead not copper) and when they got inside they took some very strange routes through the deer, NOT a straight line like you'd think. I wouldn't like that.

My 2 cents
 
taylorforce barnes bullets are exactly why i have doubts. I do alot of crop damage shooting of deer and have the oportunity to shoot alot of deer and test alot of bullets and the original barnes bullets did not do well. They would punch a small hole through a deer and very few died quickly. Ive heard the new barnes bullets are much better and with some reservation have loaded some up to try this year. One thing ill say so far is they sure do shoot better then the old ones. I too dont need any non lead bullets but just like trying differnt things.

Barnes has attempted to address all the problems mentioned, but let me add a little disclaimer I have never fired any Mono Metals out of any of my rifles. I have however read just about everything I could on these bullets, as when they came out they had some impressive numbers. Cost was the biggest factor in me not using these bullets, since good premium hunting bullets like the Nosler Partition was about 1/3-1/2 less in price. Plus I don’t think that mono-metal bullets are vastly superior in any way to what was/is already available.

The Barnes X bullets fouled the bore because of pressure plain and simple. The original X bullet was made without any driving bands like the current TSX style. Since solid copper is harder than cup and core bullets and with such a large bearing surface that drove pressures through the roof and this cause severe copper fouling. The reason they didn’t expand well is the hollow point was narrow, and because of the pressure problems they couldn’t be driven fast enough to open properly all the time. From what I’ve read this problem really affected the sub .30 caliber bullets, once you went .30 cal or larger they performed as advertised. Even though Barnes stated reliable expansion around 2000 fps everything I’ve found you need at least 2200+ fps at impact and even then expansion was so-so out of small calibers.

Barnes addressed this issue by adding the bands to the bullet; this reduced the size of the bearing surface of the bullet. Plus as the ignition of the powder starts to deform the bullet the copper has a place to flow between the bands instead of fouling the barrel. With the TSX Barnes improved the hollow point as well making it larger and deeper. They recommend as well that you drop bullet weight not only because the all copper bullet is longer than a standard cup and core bullet of the same weight, but that way you can push them faster as well to have higher impact velocities.

Hornady and Nosler both chose guilding metal to instead of solid copper. Guilding metal is soft compared to solid copper, thus in theory it shouldn’t have the potential to foul like copper. Hornady added driving bands similar to Barnes, Nosler chose not to. Barnes came out with a polymer tipped bullet called the TTSX to again improve expansion, Hornady and Nosler have both added this as well to their bullets. I’m thinking both companies have learned from Barnes’s mistakes and have taken measures to insure their bullets perform as advertised.

I have a buddy who shoots 110 grain TTSX bullets out of a .270 WSM. He has taken quite a few deer and pronghorn with it and one elk. He swears by the Federal Premium ammunition that he runs through his A-Bolt.
 
Lloyd Smale, I would be very interested in your evaluation of the E-Tips if you decide to use them. I shot lead for years until getting fed up with failures and moved to Barnes. My gun does not like the Barnes, averaging 2" groups, but so far the bullets have performed on game as advertised. If you do use the E-Tips please let us know how they do.
 
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there loaded allen. we dont start shooting deer till the end of august though. the load I settle on was 69 grains of re22 and the 140 etip.
 
Saw'em down to the bass-pro shops but haven't had a chance to load any,,,, Missouri doesn't have a lead ban yet so the "leaded" versions of the Nosler line-up gets the nod. However I do have a box of Hornady Superformance GMX 130 gr for my .270,,;)I agree with Taylor(force) :p on this one "as long as Premium bullets with lead are 1/2 to 1/3 the price,,,, heck yeah!
 
Thank you Lloyd, I'll be loading some up (150 Grn for a 7WSM) for an elk hunting trip in October. If your reviews are not good that'll give me time to get something else loaded.
 
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taylorforce barnes bullets are exactly why i have doubts. I do alot of crop damage shooting of deer and have the oportunity to shoot alot of deer and test alot of bullets and the original barnes bullets did not do well. They would punch a small hole through a deer and very few died quickly.

About 23 years ago I bought a 270 and got 200 rounds of PMC ammo loaded with the "Barnes X Bullets" in the deal and had the same problem with them. They would just punch straight through with out leaving a large hole (like you usually find with a SP bullet) it really turned me off them. I know alot of people swear by them especially dangerous game hunters.
 
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