Anyone order the Glock "gadget"

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Wondering if anyone here placed an order for the Glock gadget.
https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gadget-a-striker-control-device#/

I have no investment in this product and am not promoting it. I am just curious if anyone here knew about it and ordered on yet. I am thinking about it.

This gadget grew out of a desire by some experts shooters like Todd Green and Tom Jones over at the Pistol-forums to develop a device to make it safer to holster the Glock while carrying AIWB. Many had moved over to hammer fired pistols so that they could ride the hammer while holstering and desired a similar way to prevent ND while holstering striker fire pistols.

Before you yell, "just keep your finger off the trigger", realize that these guys over there are much more experts than the average Joe, and they like to practice live fire from appendix carry way more times than you or I.

The gadget is a replacement for the slide plate. It has a design that by holding your thumb against the rear plate, it prevents the trigger from being activated, so that you can safely reholster a glock.

Holstering a glock is the moment that a ND can most easily happen, so this was designed with that in mind.
 
Ill pass.

I carry appendix and practice with a live gun every time I go shooting too. Just another gizmo to forget and/or become too reliant on.

People seem to love to try to make up for their lack of skills by adding more complexity to things. Just seems a bit counterproductive to me.
 
This gadget grew out of a desire by some experts shooters like Todd Green and Tom Jones over at the Pistol-forums to develop a device to make it safer to holster the Glock while carrying AIWB. Many had moved over to hammer fired pistols so that they could ride the hammer while holstering and desired a similar way to prevent ND while holstering striker fire pistols.
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Do you have a link that documents that? I have a hard time believing Todd Green would be behind a device like that (or was before he passed).
 
Yes, it states right on the development page:
"The Gadget — A Striker Control Device
The Striker Control Device was created and patented by Tom Jones & Todd Green to provide an added level of safety when holstering a striker-fired gun. The first implementation of this technology is the “Gadget” for Glocks."

It's been discussed over at Pistol-forums.com for quite a while with much of his input.
 
Honestly, I like it. I tried striker guns and then traded them off for hammer fired guns because after 30 years of carrying a gun putting my thumb on the hammer during re-holstering was a safety habit I got into.

This could actually make me give Glock another chance.
 
P. T. Barnum probably has a good supply of them for anybody interested.

Some interesting tidbits from the website.
$82,576 USD total funds raised
135% funded on August 24, 2015
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135% of the money they neede to raise in order to make these gismos for the people who "donated" eighty bucks each!
$79 USD + Shipping
1 Striker Control Device
Receive one Striker Control Device ("Gadget") as soon as they are available. $79 plus $5 shipping to anywhere in the United States.
1 claimed
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So they sold 1 so far?

If you don't like Glock's Safe Action Pistol design, get a Springfield Arms XD that has a 1911 sryle grip safety already designed in.
 
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The XD grip safety is so very much not like a 1911 except for the fact that it is located in nearly the same area and typical holstering of an XD certainly defeats the grip safety and defeats your argument that it is the answer, or an answer.

And I actually very much like the XD grip safety concept, design and execution, FWIW.
 
typical holstering of an XD certainly defeats the grip safety
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In what way? From the very get-go holstering my XD40 Sub Compact has been doen without touching the grip safety. Nothing that needed any training to accomplish. It is a very natural feeling grip with my trigger finger pointing along the slide, the grip of the gun laying in my palm with my thumb on the back of the slide keeping it away from the grip safety. I secure the gun with my fingers around the front strap, and the web of my hand away from the grip safety. I know my description might be hard to follow, but it has always been natural, and secure to me.
 
For a while, somebody was marketing a plastic device that could be snug-fit BEHIND the trigger of a Glock and "easily" flicked out by your trigger finger when it was time to fire a shot.

It definitely prevented the trigger from moving backward in any manner, be it finger or shirt or tree branch or what have you.

I don't think it sold well. It was lower in cost than any actual modification.
 
It’s a great idea for a issue that doesn’t seem to exist.
What is the designer trying to accomplish with this. It allows you to pull the trigger and the gun won’t go off as long as you have your thumb on the back of the slide.
The only real use I see is so you don’t break your thumb if your thumb is on the back of the slide. But then again you have to be pushing down with some force so it probably won’t help that ether.
I just don’t see the purpose.

BEHIND the trigger of a Glock and "easily" flicked
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I had one of those for my 26. It did as it advertised but the "Easily Flicked" off was VERY unreliable and was never actually on my 26 other than to test.
I rated that one as a bad design.
 
So they sold 1 so far?
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On thanksgiving of 2016, Tom Jones the developer wrote:
"Good news, everyone!-CENSORED-I've received the first partial shipment of Striker Control Devices! I will be shipping out this-CENSORED-batch of ~400 SCDs this weekend and another 400-500 every couple of weeks after that (or as they come in).-CENSORED- Updated, they are currently at 67% completion of shipments and expect to get caught up in the next batch in January of 2017."

So I believe that the 1 means one new order in the past day since the update.
They just lowered the price from 99.99 to 79.99 today.

I believe that way these investment sites work is that the initial people might pay higher, but as it gets developed, the cost will be lower. The initial investors are helping get the product developed because they believe in the product. So the amount of 82,576 dollars reflects the amount of initial purchasers who put in orders before the final development at varying purchase prices, so you can estimate the amount of these that have been shipped once they have fulfilled the 100% of promised obligations.
 
TunnelRat, Todd Green passed??
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He did, back in March. Apparently he had cancer for a number of years.
http://www.pumphreyfuneralhome.com/obituary/Todd-Louis-Green/MD/1601081

I respect Todd Green and always will. From what I've read from him he was never a huge fan of striker fired pistols from a safety standpoint. For a number of years he was pointed to as an advocate for HK's LEM (on HKPRO there is even a certain spring setup for LEM called the Todd Green Special). Toward the end of his life if I remember correctly he went back to DA/SA in a SIG. I don't have any issues with those trigger systems (though I'm not a big fan of LEM) and frankly what someone decides is safe for him/her isn't my business.

My issue with this product is it seeks to turn a Glock into something it isn't. A Glock is not a hammer fired gun. There is no riding the hammer into the holster. If that's a big concern of yours, and I'm not saying it shouldn't be, then honestly my advice is to get a different gun and not try and turn a Glock into something it isn't. XDs are another possibility if reholstering is a big concern.

From what I can tell from the video any rearward pressure on the slide plate prevents the striker from moving fully to the rear and makes the pistol inoperable. I don't like this idea. If you're in a situation where someone is wrestling with you you might find your slide pushed slightly out of battery. It's a rare situation, but it can happen. One way to overcome this is to apply pressure on the rear of the slide with your other hand to get the pistol back in battery, then press the trigger. The pistol may not cycle fully, but one round discharged is better than none. This gadget prevents that from being possible.

Now is what I described rare? Absolutely. But beyond that situation (or any other situation where pressure might be applied to the rear of the slide, such as wresting for a pistol in a gun grab situation) I don't like changing the internal mechanisms of a firearm from the original design. It's something I don't personally do. This isn't just lightening the trigger with some springs or a different geometry of the internal parts. This is bigger than that. It's not something I would be in favor of doing.

I would argue I can respect Todd Green without agreeing with every idea he had, even if he knew more than I likely ever will. Any instructor I had worth a salt has advised us to take what he says, try it and think about it, and untimately do what works best for us. I imagine Green was the same way.
 
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TunnelRat,
If you read further, SouthNarc tested the device in hours and hours of force on force training at his academy and this (what your referred to) didn't seem to be an issue in the development.
"in addition, noted Instructor Craig "Southnarc" Douglas tested prototype Gadgets for a year in his highly regarded Extreme Close Quarter Concepts (ECQC) class involving students fighting at contact distance in sand, dirt, gravel, rain, and sun with no failures related to the Gadget in more than 500 training evolutions."
These is nothing that would prevent you from pushing on the back of the plate to get the slide back into battery and still be able operate the glock as usual as if it never had the device.
The sole object of this gadget is to be able to detect and prevent movement of the striker when holstering.

I suggest people go to Pistol-forums.com and read much of the development of this device to understand why it came into being.
 
I don't understand the hostility! It is a very simple device that seems to do exactly what it is designed to do. It doesn't weigh enough to effect balance, and doesn't interfere with normal operation.

The notion that this is a crutch for those who don't have sufficient skills is an argument that is a favorite among many. I Ike Glocks. I think they are dependable, reasonably priced fighting handguns, but I carry a striker fired pistol with a thumb safety AIWB. Please do not insist I don't have the skills to carry a Glock. I do. I like the external safety. I see no good reason to mock this device. Whether the price is too high, or there is a market for it remains to be seen.
 
TunnelRat, always sad when we lose a respected member of the community.

I have many years of habits behind me and the thumb on the hammer is one of them. All I own and use these days are HK's with LEM triggers. I like it and it works for me and my style..
 
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