Anyone familiar with california would like to lend a hand?

N

Norrick

New member
I went to a couple gun stores last weekend and was looking at 22LR revolvers, mostly the ruger single sixes and bearcats. Some where used on consignment, and others were NIB. They even had that new hunter model with the scope mount and 7.5inch barrel.

Then I started looking at some models on gunbroker that I was not familiar with from the Ruger website (perhaps discontinued?) Then I checked the california handgun roster (http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/) to see which ones I could get (assuming the seller was willing to ship to CA) and I noticed something interesting about the gun list.

If you select Sturm Ruger as the manufacturer and pull up the list, you wont find a SINGLE revolver chambered in 22LR on the list. How can this be if I have been looking at a handful of them over the weekend in the gun stores? I know that the gun list has expiration dates so I checked the list of recently expired handguns (same page as linked but below the drop down manufacturer list), and there is nothing I can find in the recent past on that list that matches up to the models I was seeing in stores, that aren't on the list.

Any ideas whats going on? Is the word "sale" a very loosely used term when it comes to gun lists and their expiration date (i.e. sales to gun stores or sales from gun stores to private individuals etc)??

any help appreciated...
 
Kalifornia

Kalifornia legislatures place firearms on the list according to the willingness of the company to bribe legislators on a biannual basis. You will find that more and more manufacturers are willing to let their names lapse on the list rather than pay the kickback. Frankly, the manifest aversion to corruption increases sales in other states. I will not buy from a manufacturer who provides the profits of the sale to a corrupt politician.
 
Slopemeno nailed it.

From the heading of the Roster of Handguns Certified for Sale (http://certguns.doj.ca.gov/):

"Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement." (emphasis added)
 
Ok I already feel kinda dumb for asking, but one more question...

is the word "certain" meaning it pertains to specific models, or is it just the way the law is written where "certain single action revolvers" is specifying single action revolvers as a "certain" type of gun to be exempt?
 
Norrick said:
....is the word "certain" meaning it pertains to specific models, or is it just the way the law is written where "certain single action revolvers" is specifying single action revolvers as a "certain" type of gun to be exempt?
Click to expand...
"(a) The provisions of this chapter shall not apply to a single-action revolver that has at least a 5-cartridge capacity with a barrel length of not less than three inches, and meets any of the following specifications: (1) Was originally manufactured prior to 1900 and is a curio or relic, as defined in Section 478.11 of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations. (2) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least 7 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled. (3) Has an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least 7 1/2 inches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled and that is currently approved for importation into the United States pursuant to the provisions of paragraph (3) of subsection (d) of Section 925 of Title 18 of the United States Code. ...." (Penal Code 12133, emphasis added)

All of this information is available on the California Attorney General's website.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top