Anyone ever point shoot??

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tokarevman

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I am not shure what to call it but you hold the gun to your side and shoot at a target moving your body and look were you aiming and not down the gun? Some guys at the range were doing it this weekend and they talked me into trying it was realy fun, and i got prety good at it i was hitting the can about 6 out of 8 times and it was a blast.
 
My first handgun was a ruger single six (.22lr)with fixed sites

Shooting from the him was about as accurate as anything!
 
Yes but it was part of another excersize

I had a good rig for a gold cup and I practiced fast draw, point and shoot
Started at 5 feet from the target and worked back to 15 feet, I was ok with what I did, but the one thing that I noticed was that it really helped with point shoting, and that was what the man said that showed me how.
He was some one that carried a gun and rode on Harry Trumans train.
 
I am certainly no expert at doing so, . . . but you will find that a 1911 is one of the very best for this type of shooting. You don't shoot from the "hip" though, . . . it is where your hand comes to a stop as you straighten the lower half of your arm out as though you were pointing at your target with your trigger finger. If you are old enough to remember, . . . kinda like old James Arness did it at the beginning of Gunsmoke.

It's kinda fun, . . . but you can flat burn up some ammo playing with this.

May God bless,
Dwight
 
"Point shooting" used to be taught at the FBI and Border Patrol agency ranges until the introduction of the "Weaver stance" and other modern techniques.

Nothing wrong with learning to point shoot. Whether it's from the hip a-la an old west gunslinger, the old (arm over your heart) FBI crouch or simply an unaimed shot, knowing how to "point & click" on your target is a valuable skill.

For fun, turn a standard silhouette target around and draw the outline of it in black felt marker. Put a black dot in the X ring or use an orange sticky dot. Stand about 12-15 feet away. Draw & fire one round. Hold your weapon's position while you look at the hit. Think about the adjustment then do it on the next shot. Until satisfied, repeat. :D Try it at different ranges to see what happens.

Don't hurry it but don't take time to "try" to aim it either. The idea is to build a skill set where you can hit your target with good accuracy at up to 25 feet without needing to aim. Hitting an 8" pie plate at 25' consistently is good.
 
Do a search here & on High Road - there's lots of expert opinion on both sides.

When my eyes started to age, I began point-shooting with an S&W 60. As most people say, it can be done well enough for 5-10 yard defense.

Now I have Crimson Trace lasergrips on all my guns & I'm good-to-go at 15 yards all day long with the laser - plus, I'm confident enough now with my laser shooting to use the iron sights even though they're blurry. You use whatever tools and techniques that work for you.
 
Honestly, that's how I learned how to shoot. I swear, I think I was 15 before I learned that there was something called 'aiming'.
 
Point shooting

That used to be "part" of our training regimen. It worked well at 10' and fairly well at 21' for me. After that I tended to get kind of eratic probably meaning I didn't spend enough time working on it.
 
I think its a good skill for short ranges where accuracy needs to be sacrificed for speed of shots on target. A guy within 21 feet with a knife will be able to kill you before you can get your gun out of the holster. That kind of situation is where the necessity of point shooting is evident. Accuracy is paramount, but if you get stabbed looking down your sights looking for the perfect shot, the application of your firearm for self defence is moot, you would be better off using hand to hand (better chance you havent added another weapon to the fight that can be taken and used against you).
 
If I may... (and you really can't stop me, anyway)

There are two, and possibly three different levels of 'point shooting'.

One is the hip shooting sort of thing. Gun is barely out of the holster, still near the waistline. This is sometimes called the 'retention' position, as the adversay cannot grab your gun very well. The downside is that accuracy is very short ranged, muzzle blast can impinge on your body (clothing) and face, and you can set yourself on fire. Supposedly, this is fastest way to get a shot off, but I have my doubts. I always see the shooter 'searching' with his pistol for an aiming point.

Two is 'point shoulder' - arms outstretched, both hands on gun, sort of looking over the sights and down the plane of the barrel or slide. This gets the muzzle blast and flame away from your body, gives much more directional control over the shots fired, and gives a greater feeling of security in the shooting. Downside is the gun is out to be grabbed, if the adversary is that close, and since the gun is at eye level anyway, why not aim and be sure of a hit?

The maybe third technique is the 'halfway' position. This is one-handed, with arm extended somewhat, but not up to eye level. This is the FBI crouch or "Gunsmoke" technique. Range is limited, but time to first shot is not much less than with an aimed shot.

In no event is there ever any need to fire more than two shots 'pointed'. By the time one gets to the third shot, enough time has elapsed to bring the gun to eye level and get a sight picture. Presuming one has sufficient light to obtain the sights.

Point shooting really comes into its own in semi-darkness. However, the best position for this is the 'point-shoulder' version I listed above as 'Two'. I've found in testing new shooters that once they learn to fire two handed aimed fire, removing the sights still allows a fair amount of accuracy from 'muscle memory'.

And yes, it is fun to blaze away in this manner.
 
That was the way I was taught at my CC class and it works very well....7-10 yards point shoot, anything over use sights...........
 
BillCA,

The Air Force was teaching a combination that included positions like the shoulder point and the old FBI crouch in the 1970s.
 
Did it plenty of times in RVN, dont know if i hit anything but made alot of noise and sprayed alot of lesd!!! Like the above,poster said the 1911 is a natural for point shooting, but alot of indoor ranges frown upon the practice!
 
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