I live on base in North Carolina and was wondering if anyone who lives on base in any state conceals a handgun. Now I know concealed carry is illegal on a military or any government installation in any situation so I would just like to know what you guys do when you are leaving base to go to the store or out of town? Do you keep your weapon locked up in the back of you car/truck and stop off somewhere to descretely put it in your holster? I met a guy who is in the Navy out here who says he has a box bolted down to the floor under the seat of his truck and he pops his Glock in there when he's coming on base. He says it is concealed but MP's and police are both ok with that since it's locked. I don't want to go that far, but I will not be breaking any laws and would like to hear what any of you other guys do who carry in the service.
Anyone carry concealed who is in the military?
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well honestly i leave mine in the safe normally if going on post or to work. then directly home before going elsewhere to "get dressed". however at times i have locked it in the glove-box with the ammo in the locked center console. hard to come up with a good method that doesn't involve leaving it home where this is concerned.
MadHatter1
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Sure is... IF you're bringing it on post to go to the privately owned weapons range to shoot, or taking it from on post quarters off post. Each post has their own specific regs on the subject; you need to check out the rules for the installation.
At MCAS Cherry Point you have to get your weapon(s) registered on base. You can hunt on base in any season just like off base. My neighbor took me duck hunting on the river right next to the boat club (or yaught club or whatever). We shot ducks and as long as you're not shooting towards people it's fine. We just had to face away from the road. My neighbor also hunts deer on base. When I came to Cherry Point, I asked the MP about the guns in the truck and he told me to just turn around, register them at the front and then I can bring them on base. He didn't say when or ask me why. When I came back through he smiled and waved me through. Then I took my guns to my house, the address that I had them registered to. How else are you supposed to move or just go to the ranges off base? If you couldn't have guns in your vehicle you would never be able to keep them at your house if you live on post and if you had them on post you would never be able to move off base.
Absolutely best idea to check with the local installation MPs or SPs. The rules do vary. The last thing you need is to get a weapons charge on your record. An Article 15 would be coming down real quick. I've seen guys get busted for guns in a vehicle in a sweep at the main gate for stolen tools. Not worth the risk. Check and be sure!
At Fort Bragg, you could get a letter from your command that authorized transport; you could then bring a weapon on base for purposes of going to the range on Fort Bragg at some point during the day.
However, some tenant commands would not allow weapons on their compounds.
Also, you were supposed to notify the gate guards that you had a weapon in the vehicle.
Just bringing a weapon onto Bragg, without paperwork or declaration, could probably result in major problems.
However, some tenant commands would not allow weapons on their compounds.
Also, you were supposed to notify the gate guards that you had a weapon in the vehicle.
Just bringing a weapon onto Bragg, without paperwork or declaration, could probably result in major problems.
SadistAssassin
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I was at Bragg for 8 years...no guns there
It will vary greatly from base to base (or post to post). Specifics of firearm policies are typically left to the base/post commander, and every one has their own flavor.
I'm lucky, there is no base at my current unit, just a parking lot next to the pier....
When I was in Kodiak, the CG P.D. there was fine with us placing the gun in one compartment (glove box) and the magazine(s) in a seperate compartment (center console) until we were clear of the gate... I would pull over right after I cleared the gate, load up, holster, then continue on my way. When I reached the gate as I returned, I would stop just short of the guard, down-load, stow my gun and mags as referenced above, then continue to the guard checkpoint.
But that was Alaska, and it's very different up there compared to the Tiny 48.
I'm lucky, there is no base at my current unit, just a parking lot next to the pier....
When I was in Kodiak, the CG P.D. there was fine with us placing the gun in one compartment (glove box) and the magazine(s) in a seperate compartment (center console) until we were clear of the gate... I would pull over right after I cleared the gate, load up, holster, then continue on my way. When I reached the gate as I returned, I would stop just short of the guard, down-load, stow my gun and mags as referenced above, then continue to the guard checkpoint.
But that was Alaska, and it's very different up there compared to the Tiny 48.
SadistAssassin, I was at Bragg from 2008-2009, and just gave you the procedures for how to transport a gun on base. I've done it numerous times. However, when I did, I had to park off-compound and walk in, as my compound was one of those that did not allow weapons in vehicles. But the base did allow it, specifically for the ability to shoot at McKellar's range, which is opposite McKellar's club.
Either things changed since your 8 years there, or you never wanted to use McKellar's, or you didn't do your homework.
Edit: SadistAssassin, you did know that Bragg has a public (to base eligible people) shooting range, right?
Either things changed since your 8 years there, or you never wanted to use McKellar's, or you didn't do your homework.
Edit: SadistAssassin, you did know that Bragg has a public (to base eligible people) shooting range, right?
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MadHatter1
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not sure when you were assigned to Bragg, but it hasn't been in the last 17 years... You may bring guns on post directly to McKellers Lodge, and directly off post when done. You may also hunt in season, going from the gate to the check in station, to the hunting area, to checkout, and off post. What you are NOT supposed to do is bring a gun to work with you in the morning, go shoot at lunch, stop by the PX, adn go home. Basicly, no other stops. Weapons brought on post must be registared with the PMO. this is a new requirement, went into effect about 3 years ago
Registration / Transport of weapons on most Federal installations is relatively simple and lots of folks do it every day.
Essentially:
1. No CCW allowed (State issued CCW permits do not apply on US property)
2. No "ready" loaded weapon in vehicle
3. Weapon/s unloaded & in locked container
4. Ammo separate from weapon (if possible, in another vehicle compartment)
5. Weapon is registered through the installation's LEO vehicle/weapons registration office
6. Copy of registration accompanies each weapon at all times
What people fail to realize is that if you get hemmed up by LEO on a military base...it's a FEDERAL charge (possibly a felony) with court appearance before a US Magistrate.
An Article 15 (UCMJ) may be the least of your problems, which could also include:
1. Loss of Security Clearance
2. Felony Conviction
3. Loss of weapons (permanently confiscated)
4. Loss of future ability to even own weapons
5. Career impact due to charges (promotion, retention, reduction)
6. Loss of on-base housing privileges
7. Loss of installation entry privileges
For all that, lots of .mil folks own weapons, live on base with weapons, and routinely transport weapons to/from their installation.
Most folks I know who are religious about off-post legal CCW carry, simply stop some distance outside the base entry gate and upload / download from their secure locked container. Naturally, do this at some distance from the security cameras and gate guards who might be concerned at seeing someone with a gun at their doorstep!
Essentially:
1. No CCW allowed (State issued CCW permits do not apply on US property)
2. No "ready" loaded weapon in vehicle
3. Weapon/s unloaded & in locked container
4. Ammo separate from weapon (if possible, in another vehicle compartment)
5. Weapon is registered through the installation's LEO vehicle/weapons registration office
6. Copy of registration accompanies each weapon at all times
What people fail to realize is that if you get hemmed up by LEO on a military base...it's a FEDERAL charge (possibly a felony) with court appearance before a US Magistrate.
An Article 15 (UCMJ) may be the least of your problems, which could also include:
1. Loss of Security Clearance
2. Felony Conviction
3. Loss of weapons (permanently confiscated)
4. Loss of future ability to even own weapons
5. Career impact due to charges (promotion, retention, reduction)
6. Loss of on-base housing privileges
7. Loss of installation entry privileges
For all that, lots of .mil folks own weapons, live on base with weapons, and routinely transport weapons to/from their installation.
Most folks I know who are religious about off-post legal CCW carry, simply stop some distance outside the base entry gate and upload / download from their secure locked container. Naturally, do this at some distance from the security cameras and gate guards who might be concerned at seeing someone with a gun at their doorstep!
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