Anybody do the Sig 320 volunteer upgrade?

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TrueBlue711

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I watched a video on a before and after comparison on the Sig P320 volunteer upgrade from the factory. Big things were: new trigger lighter in actual weight (no real change in pull/reset weights) and a notch added to the slide for a new sear added to firing group.
Has anybody sent in their 320 in? Do you think it was worth it? For the trigger, I would say yes. However, I already replaced the factory trigger with the Apex trigger. With that in mind, I'm leaning towards not sending it in. Do you think it would be worth sending in only for the new sear added?
 
Well, you don't have it quite right regarding the modifications. Is this the video you watched?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9vIY2EoJwE

The main alterations are the addition of a disconnector, a lower mass trigger, a lower mass skeletonized striker, a redesigned trigger bar with a leg that restrains unintensional upward movement of the safety lever (the thing that disengages the striker block safety) or the sear itself, and a redesigned sear. The new sear has an added surface sort of like the half cock notch on the hammer of a hammer-fired pistol, that is intended to capture the striker if it comes off the sear as a result of sear bounce.

The slides have a pocket milled to accommodate the head of the disconnector, not the sear. In addition, if you send in a subcompact P320, you will get a new grip module that has a longer tang more like those on the larger grip modules for the compact, carry, and full-size P320s.

The reset distance (the distance the slide has to move rearward to reset the trigger) will be at least somewhat longer for the modified pistols. On the original design that lacked a disconnector, trigger over-travel reset the sear and that happened right after the sear released the striker. That design feature is what was responsible for the "double click" that many P320s have, and the modified pistols do not.

Some P320 pistols have a long "lightening cut" routed out on the bottom right hand side of the slide. On these pistols, the pocket milled for the disconnector head will blend with that rout, and the disconnector will not reset the trigger until the head reaches the forward end of that rout. For those pistols, the amount of slide travel that occurs before trigger reset will be dramatically greater.

I have had two P320s modified, the first a full-size in .45 ACP and the second a compact 9mm. In both cases, the modified pistols have a slightly lighter trigger pull than they did before the modification. Comparing my first pistol to be modified to the one that had not been, in dry fire the trigger pre-travel was a little smoother for the modified trigger, and the reset was a little more positive and audible, but I could not appreciate those differences in live fire. The first time I shot my full-size P320 after the modification, I experienced a bit of trigger sting after a low round count. I did not with the modified 9mm compact.

Most individuals who have had their P320s modified feel that the trigger pull is a bit lighter. Some feel it is unchanged, and a few feel it is heavier. Most feel happy with the changes, a few do not. Some have had their slides come back with scratches.
 
I've got a 320 and honestly, I'm on the fence with the gun. I won it and overall I much prefer my S&W M&P so I'm not sure if I'll keep it or sell it.

My thinking is the next owner can have the option if I do sell. If I don't sell, I'm not sure I'm motivated to go through the recall process.

I'm really fence sitting on this one.
 
Why not go through it? Unless it's your only pistol and you don't want to be without it costs you nothing and the turnaround is pretty quick is most cases.
 
Just bought a 320 Carry Thursday. Used, but like new. Don't think it's been even fired. Also doubt if it has had the upgrade. Still sitring on the upgrade fence. Not my only carry, and won't until I run at least a hundred rounds or so through it. So I'm leaning toward the "why not?"
My intended purpose is CCW with down sizing my caliber (40 S&W to 9MM) and up sizing my capacity (12+1 to 17+1). My current carry, when not restricted by light, hot weather clothing, is a Springer XD40 Sub Compact.
 
Kreyzhorse said:
I've got a 320 and honestly, I'm on the fence with the gun. I won it and overall I much prefer my S&W M&P so I'm not sure if I'll keep it or sell it.

My thinking is the next owner can have the option if I do sell. If I don't sell, I'm not sure I'm motivated to go through the recall process.

I'm really fence sitting on this one.
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The next owner may not get to send it in. Sig does not extend the warranty past the original owner. I am not sure that they will upgrade a pistol that was sold used. I know for a fact they will not do warranty work on one if you cannot produce a receipt showing proof of purchase NIB. If you ever intend to sell it you will get more $$ for it if it has been to the factory for the upgrade. IMHO
 
The next owner may not get to send it in. Sig does not extend the warranty past the original owner. I am not sure that they will upgrade a pistol that was sold used. I know for a fact they will not do warranty work on one if you cannot produce a receipt showing proof of purchase NIB. If you ever intend to sell it you will get more $$ for it if it has been to the factory for the upgrade. IMHO
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Good info to know. Appreciate it.
 
Hi all,
Kreyzhorse said,
I'm not sure I'm motivated to go through the recall process.
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Why not?
It really is painless,
1) Sign up at Sig's website
2) Get a return email
5 minutes or less
3) Put it in your original P320 box (Unloaded-No Magazines)
A couple of minutes
4) Go to FedEx. (A main FedEx location / Independents don't take firearms)
FedEx will box it up and it's gone.
There is a FedEx location 15 minutes from me near a Costco.
I took it with me on my next Costco Shopping trip and stopped at FedEx on my way.
10 minutes inside FedEx
So, I may have expelled a half hour at the most on the whole process!
Your time will vary depending on the FedEx part of the experience.
The rest is up to Sig.
You do have to be home (or at work) to sign for the return of your P320 from Sig.
Even if you are going to sell your P320 the next owner deserves your due diligence to do this for them.
Plus who knows, after the "Upgrade" you may not want to sell it.
You deserve to see for yourself what its all about!

I already replaced the factory trigger with the Apex trigger.
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You will have to put the original trigger back into the trigger assy before sending it to Sig.
Apex now has a new trigger for the "Upgraded" P320's and they will work with you in regard to your previous trigger.
You can do that while your P320 is getting upgraded.
Or wait to see what you think of Sig's new trigger.

I HAVE the P320 Compact RX with the Romeo 1 and I love it!
I was hesitant to send it to Sig for the "Upgrade" two weeks before Thanksgiving.
I wanted to take it with me to show off and also my relatives and friends had a "Range Day" planned for the Saturday after T-Day.
BUT, after I saw the quick turnaround times of 7 days, I figured I'd give it a try.
Sure enough 7 days after sending it to Sig it was back in my hands with time to spare.
It was quick and painless!

The only P320's that take longer are the 45's because there is more milling involved with the slide.
Numerous Forums and postings will confirm this.
You do not say whether you have a 45 or not but just a FYI if you do.

Give it a go...In the end I know that you'll be glad that you did.

Mackie244 / Bud
 
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>>Why not go through it?<<

I agree, and if nothing else it will make the gun easier to sell when the time comes. (and it always does)
 
The amount of slide milling that was done on my P320 45 ACP is exactly identical to the milling done on my P320 9 mm.
 
The next owner may not get to send it in. Sig does not extend the warranty past the original owner. I am not sure that they will upgrade a pistol that was sold used.
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so to verify this, for those who have had the upgrade done, did they ask in any way if it was a used gun or not? Did they eant a copy of the receipt?
 
I am pretty certain that SIG Sauer will upgrade any P320 whether or not the current owner is the original owner. To confirm, just call SIG Sauer customer support at (603) 610-3000, option 1.
 
Neither the form online nor anyone I talked to asked for a receipt at any time. But he is right that SIG typically won’t do warranty work on a used pistol. I wonder if they’re making an exception in this case.


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Well, even though SIG insists that this is a "voluntary upgrade" and not a recall, most of us realize that they did not totally shut down all new P320 production and undertake this massive modification process simply out of the goodness of their hearts.

They did it for liability reasons. As such, it would be purely stupid not to modify a P320 whose owner requested it be done, even if that person was not the original owner.
 
TunnelRat said:
Neither the form online nor anyone I talked to asked for a receipt at any time. But he is right that SIG typically won’t do warranty work on a used pistol. I wonder if they’re making an exception in this case.


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This is true to my recollection as well but I had registered the pistol online when I purchased it NIB so they already knew I was the original owner. It would not surprise me if they let it go on this one but I would still send it in if I was looking to sell. As a buyer I would prefer one that was "upgraded" vs one that was not.
 
Just filled out the on line form and submitted it. I noticed they said it might take some time before they get back to me with the shipping info. But also mentioned they are waiting until they get everything ready for the upgrade. I took it to mean this on line form has been around a while. How soon are they getting the info back now?
 
I think it took a good month before they gave me the go ahead to ship it back. Depends on their backlog.
 
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