Any reviews on the Inland "1911 A1 Government"?

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Inland is now producing a 1911A1 "clone" of the first military version of the 1911A1. It is magnesium phosphate (Parkerizing) finished. Right now it is being sold for $649.95 (special offer) By inland through MKS.

I believe that this pistol is manufactured by Inland right in Dayton, Ohio. It seems as if it is a back to basics, "no-frills" 1911 A1.

If anyone has any information a no-nonsense review would be a great contribution.

www.inland-mfg.com
 
Colt, Ruger, Smith & Wesson, Springfield and Sig aren't the only games in town.

If Inland is producing M1 Carbines and, working in conjunction with Ithaca, Shotguns, why can't they make good cast-steel framed 45 self loaders? (The design isn't a state secret).
 
Look at the Auto Ordinance side by side with the Inland. It is like they are one and the same, right down to the finishes.
 
We've had threads on this before and the notion came about that "Inland" is merely putting together guns made for them. A number of us here strongly suspect the firearms marketed under that name are originally made by Auto Ordnance. From the Inland website:
"Inland Manufacturing, LLC is a private entity based in Dayton, Ohio that has no relationship with General Motors Corporation. Inland Manufacturing sources all of the components for their line of firearms from other US companies. The Inland Manufacturing products are assembled and or manufactured at the Dayton, Ohio location."
 
If that were the case, the "oiler" that doesn't fit on the A/O Carbine wouldn't exist on the Inland Carbine. The Inland has the "oiler" cut on the stock. The A/O does not.

Why wouldn't the A/O have a space for the oiler if they both came from the same manufacturer?

This parallel doesn't make any logical sense.
 
If that were the case, the "oiler" that doesn't fit on the A/O Carbine wouldn't exist on the Inland Carbine. The Inland has the "oiler" cut on the stock. The A/O does not.

Why wouldn't the A/O have a space for the oiler if they both came from the same manufacturer?

This parallel doesn't make any logical sense.
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Because Inland could be asking for additional specifications that don't exist on the Auto Ordnance models, so AO makes the changes. This is not unheard of or overly rare in the firearm industry. Inland themselves admits to sourcing all of the components for their firearms. I've seen and handled M1 Carbines from both AO and Inland side by side. Yes they're both M1 Carbines so they should be similar, but the level of similarity down to the fit and finish of each individual part is hard to ignore. If you choose to believe differently you're free to do so.
 
What does this have to do with their 1911 A1 Government? Any foundation (concrete evidence) to believe their pistols are the exact same handguns from Auto Ordnance? How about some documentation? Press releases? In-house memos? Anything?

Did you just pull this out of your ear? (Idle speculation)? :confused:
 
All I have is the visuals.
The AO and Inland pistols match (except for roll marks) right down to the misplaced slide serrations.
I would have expected somebody trying to do a faithful copy could have caught that error on a competitor's gun... unless they were subbing them out to that competitor.
 
I'll tell you what, that new Ithaca trench gun they've got coming out looks good. :cool:

Probably will work better than their carbines since it's not made by Inland, but Ithaca.
 
When this question came up a few months ago I was seriously contemplating a purchase of an Inland 1911, as a potential buyer I asked Inland some questions about their product. Inland failed to respond both times I requested....purchased a Colt Gov Model and have not been unhappy with my choice....had Inland responded the outcome may have been different.
 
Any reviews on the Inland "1911 A1 Government"?

Press releases? Well, there's that statement on their website saying they source all the components for their firearms. Those components have to come from somewhere. If not AO, where? As for in house memos, that's not something I'm privilege to.

You seem to be taking the suggestion that they are using AO parts very adversely. I'm not sure if you have a personal stake here or something. As I said, you're free to do what you want. If you want one then buy one, but seemingly getting mad at us for sharing what are our hypotheses are seems a bit nuts.
 
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Just to add more fuel to the speculation fire, if you compare an A-O, Inland and RIA (Armscor) slide, all three have the "misplaced" serrations, which begs the question "Are they getting unmarked Armscor slides from Pahrump, NV?"

The importer, of course, is an "American" company, and, if 51% of the work is done in the U.S. an item can be labeled as "Made in U.S.A."

Just food for speculation...:D
 
A-O, Inland and RIA (Armscor) slide, all three have the "misplaced" serrations,
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Misplaced in what way?

(My latest acquisiton was a RIA GI .45, which has been quite reliable, outside of a slide stop issue.)
 
Misplaced in what way?
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They should be more centered between the slide stop and the thumb safety. Instead they are more to the front of the slide with the front serration actually directly above the slide stop.
 
They should be more centered between the slide stop and the thumb safety. Instead they are more to the front of the slide with the front serration actually directly above the slide stop.
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In other words, room enough for where Rock Island puts their logo now. My guess is, there's a good chance AO's and Inland's slides are from Armscor.
 
5: All 1911 A1 pistols (that are cast) look identical! What does that prove?
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That's not true. Armscor/Rock Island/et al. have an incorrectly shaped trigger guard that's obvious to anyone who's really looking.
Auto Ord guns used to have an issue with the slide stop overhanging the edge of the frame that has since been fixed.
If you want a gun that really looks like a WWII M1911A1, there are compromises that you have to accept.
The Inland, and newer A/Os are about as accurate as you will find in a new gun.
 
"Colt, Ruger, Smith & Wesson, Springfield and Sig aren't the only games in town."


they arent the only games in town...but they sure are the leaders of the pack

for good reasons


and thats the facts
 
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