Any probs. with 686+
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686+
I have one....have had no problems or heard of any. It seems it is easier to find the + than the 6 shot. The action is different because you have less movement of the cylinder to the firing point. I would think since less movement is involved it might make it "in theory" stronger. It will take you one or two cylinders worth of ammo to adjust.
I have one....have had no problems or heard of any. It seems it is easier to find the + than the 6 shot. The action is different because you have less movement of the cylinder to the firing point. I would think since less movement is involved it might make it "in theory" stronger. It will take you one or two cylinders worth of ammo to adjust.
Well, MAYBE...they seem to be a little more "Delicate" in that area than maybe the six-shot "L's" are...let's see how my "cut-and-paste" skills work..."borrowed" from the S&W Forum BB AND TFL...
mikey357
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From:Griffin,GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
posted 02-19- 04:22 PM
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Here's a "copy" of a post I made on another "Board about this same subject...
Well, having had more than a "baker's dozen" of L-frame .357's, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on this...ALL of the SIX-shot "L's" that I have had were UNIFORMLY well-timed...locked up PRIOR TO hammer-fall in DA mode, trigger-pull seemed UNIFORM all the way around the cylinder in DA, etc. I've had SEVEN of the "686 Pluses", and TWO of them were less than perfect in the "timing" department...the first was the "first one on the block", so to speak...literally, the first one I saw right after their introduction...so, I MAY NOT have inspected it as critically as I would have normally, due to the "WOW--NEAT NEW TOY" factor...IT would not "pre-time" on TWO chambers in DA right out of the box...being THOROUGHLY disgusted--as well as having found ANOTHER "Plus" that WAS right--I slunk off to Franklin's in Athens, GA, and traded it on a nice Sako rifle--hadda' console myself, after all!!!
The second "Plus" was one that WAS RIGHT when purchased, but after 3,000 or so rounds--AND a "so-so" action job from a local " 'smith"--it went "out of time"...what this tells me is that the hand/ratchet interface is BOTH more critical--AND more "sensitive" to wear/abuse, for lack of a better word, on the seven shooters, than on the six-shot "L's"...that being said, I've got TWO "Pluses" that have had MORE rounds thru them than the one that went "out of time" at 3,000 rounds, and are still running GREAT...I think that, IF you LIKE the SEVEN-SHOT concept, you just need to be very CAREFUL--even PICKY--when buying one. Do that, and I believe that you'll be happy with the seven-shooter!!!....mikey357
mikey357
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From:Griffin,GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
posted 07-13- 01:18 PM
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Robert, I guess having had thirteen or fourteen "L's" since they showed up in '81--and SEVEN "Seven-Shooters"--does NOT constitute a "Statistically Significant" sample...even so, I only reported what I have experienced, PERSONALLY...also, SEVERAL other posters, both here AND elsewhere HAVE noted the same type of "Problem(S)" I alluded to...doesn't make it an EPIDEMIC, but maybe...a TREND??? As an aside, one of the 686 "Pluses" that I HAVE had good service from is starting to "Carry up" a little slower on two chambers...still "pre-times", but noticeably later on those two holes...after perhaps 5,000 rounds fired, and a like amount of dry-fire...almost all DA...it'll need a trip to the 'smith before too long....mikey357
...hope this helps....mikey357
mikey357
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Posts: 239
From:Griffin,GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
posted 02-19- 04:22 PM
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Here's a "copy" of a post I made on another "Board about this same subject...
Well, having had more than a "baker's dozen" of L-frame .357's, I feel somewhat qualified to comment on this...ALL of the SIX-shot "L's" that I have had were UNIFORMLY well-timed...locked up PRIOR TO hammer-fall in DA mode, trigger-pull seemed UNIFORM all the way around the cylinder in DA, etc. I've had SEVEN of the "686 Pluses", and TWO of them were less than perfect in the "timing" department...the first was the "first one on the block", so to speak...literally, the first one I saw right after their introduction...so, I MAY NOT have inspected it as critically as I would have normally, due to the "WOW--NEAT NEW TOY" factor...IT would not "pre-time" on TWO chambers in DA right out of the box...being THOROUGHLY disgusted--as well as having found ANOTHER "Plus" that WAS right--I slunk off to Franklin's in Athens, GA, and traded it on a nice Sako rifle--hadda' console myself, after all!!!
The second "Plus" was one that WAS RIGHT when purchased, but after 3,000 or so rounds--AND a "so-so" action job from a local " 'smith"--it went "out of time"...what this tells me is that the hand/ratchet interface is BOTH more critical--AND more "sensitive" to wear/abuse, for lack of a better word, on the seven shooters, than on the six-shot "L's"...that being said, I've got TWO "Pluses" that have had MORE rounds thru them than the one that went "out of time" at 3,000 rounds, and are still running GREAT...I think that, IF you LIKE the SEVEN-SHOT concept, you just need to be very CAREFUL--even PICKY--when buying one. Do that, and I believe that you'll be happy with the seven-shooter!!!....mikey357
mikey357
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Posts: 239
From:Griffin,GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000
posted 07-13- 01:18 PM
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Robert, I guess having had thirteen or fourteen "L's" since they showed up in '81--and SEVEN "Seven-Shooters"--does NOT constitute a "Statistically Significant" sample...even so, I only reported what I have experienced, PERSONALLY...also, SEVERAL other posters, both here AND elsewhere HAVE noted the same type of "Problem(S)" I alluded to...doesn't make it an EPIDEMIC, but maybe...a TREND??? As an aside, one of the 686 "Pluses" that I HAVE had good service from is starting to "Carry up" a little slower on two chambers...still "pre-times", but noticeably later on those two holes...after perhaps 5,000 rounds fired, and a like amount of dry-fire...almost all DA...it'll need a trip to the 'smith before too long....mikey357
...hope this helps....mikey357
No Problemo
I've had no trouble with my 686+ nor have I had problems with other 686 +s that I've had the opportunity to use. I did experience problems with my Taurus 617 (7 shot .357 mag). Timing went bad and the cylinder would bind. (Just my experience with the 1 particular gun, not a slam at taurus).
I've had no trouble with my 686+ nor have I had problems with other 686 +s that I've had the opportunity to use. I did experience problems with my Taurus 617 (7 shot .357 mag). Timing went bad and the cylinder would bind. (Just my experience with the 1 particular gun, not a slam at taurus).
I have no extensive experience with the 7 shooters, but I do wonder how that timing check is being made. Some folks hold the cylinder as hard as possible and then cock the hammer or try the DA pull. That is not a normal way of handling a revolver and a lot of them won't time up when worked that way, but will be perfectly OK in normal use.
Jim
Jim
dairycreek
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I have two 686+ revolvers!
One is a "snubby" the other has a 4" barrel. Have about 1500 rounds through each. The rounds put through them were a mix of .357, 38 spcl, and +P rounds. Also true of bullet weights. All were factory loads - no reloads. No troubles with either gun as of this time. FWIW. Good shooting
One is a "snubby" the other has a 4" barrel. Have about 1500 rounds through each. The rounds put through them were a mix of .357, 38 spcl, and +P rounds. Also true of bullet weights. All were factory loads - no reloads. No troubles with either gun as of this time. FWIW. Good shooting
Guy B. Meredith
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I recently noted how thin the ratchets on my 686+ star are in comparison to my M66 or even my 8-shot 627. Interesting. However, I have put around 9000 rounds of PMC 158 gr .357 magnum loads through the 686+ and maybe an equal number .38 spl of varying velocity. The 686+ is the one I keep in the bed stand at night for uninvited visitors.
KEN CHAVEZ
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I have a S&W 686+ and a S&W 386PD, both are seven round revalvers. I have put about 1500 rounds through my 686+, with no problems. I have only put 350 rounds through my 386PD, but I don't expect to ever have any problems with either gun.