Another slap in the face for Americans

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We have had the protests back in april and may, we recently had the incident in Maywood Ca. of the American flag being removed and replaced with a mexican flag at a U.S. post office, now this.......

http://ktrh.com/cc-common/news/sections/newsarticle.html?feed=121300&article=982537

A school assembly was held last week at Velasco elementary school during which every child was given a mexican flag and led in a recital of the mexican pledge of allegiance. This time it hits real close to home as this is the very school district that my tax dollars are helping to fund.

Of course this hasnt been covered by the local paper, nor the houston tv stations, it was only made known to the public when an outraged parent informed a local talk show host.

The school district is spinning it as "it was just educational for mexican independence day", i dont care how they spin it, its WRONG.

Of course this school is primarily hispanic, as they all are here, and many of those kids of children of illegals.

Somebodys head needs to roll over this, this kids are living in America, getting educations and healthcare at taxpayers expense and here they are pledging thier allegiance to mexico. Of course i dont blame the kids, they are just doing what the adults tell them.

Mexico is being shoved down our collective throats.
 
It's called a "pledge of allegiance" for a reason, and one should not recite a pledge to ally oneself to another nation casually. Of allegiance, Webster's says:
1 a : the obligation of a feudal vassal to his liege lord b (1) : the fidelity owed by a subject or citizen to a sovereign or government (2) : the obligation of an alien to the government under which the alien resides
2 : devotion or loyalty to a person, group, or cause
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I think many in the USA have forgotten just what it means to live in a free and sovereign nation. Being a melting pot is fine, so long as we remind ourselves what it is we are, stand for and that we never forget the price paid by so many to make and keep us this way. Introducing other cultures is acceptable, but you cross the line when you hand out flags of another nation and lead children in the pledge of allegiance for that other nation. :mad:

And for those children who are not citizens, their parents may return to Mexico and recite the pledge there. While here they can respect our sovereignty and save their nationalism for the home or the homeland, not the public schools.
 
Actually, it WAS carried on the local news, because channel 2 (NBC) carried it as having caused a huge flap. That's how I heard about it.

Another utterly non-gun-related political thread....

Springmom
 
Find Out Who Ran The Ceremony....

find the appropriate alphabet department and run them out of town (& the country)...from the US Code,

TITLE 8 > CHAPTER 12 > SUBCHAPTER III > Part III > § 1481

§ 1481. Loss of nationality by native-born or naturalized citizen; voluntary action; burden of proof; presumptions

(a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention [who can really be sure of their intentions? & isn't that for the courts to decide] of relinquishing United States nationality—

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years;

:eek: Perhaps that will wake them up....and of course while you are at it, make sure they complied with the Constitution Day federal law for good measure. :eek:
 
I'm calling for the resignation of the school board and the superintendant! This is an outrage! And to take place in a public school this is an OUTRAGE!!!
 
Several parents have complained to the Brazosport Independent School District administration, school officials confirmed, but claims that students were required to recite a pledge to the Mexican flag were simply false, a school spokesman said.

Brazosport District Spokesman Stuart Dornburg said, “A group of parents, who are volunteers, did get up on stage and recite the pledge to the Mexican flag … the students did not recite the pledge.”

“This was totally done as an educational, cultural activity,” he said. Dornburg stressed that students in the district recite the pledges to the Texas and U.S. flags at the beginning of each school day
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Might want to wait and see if things are really as they seem, y'all. Sounds like there might be two sides to this, as with most things.

Springmom
 
springmom said:
Another utterly non-gun-related political thread....
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Um, okay. And?


Round table discussions range from the Bill of Rights, to concealed carry, to general political issues.
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If you don't like it, why comment? This forum doesn't bear a "posts must be gun-related" warning. Do you have it confused with the General forum? :rolleyes:


-azurefly
 
It was surely intended as a 'how much can we push it' idea...I don't buy lies made to justify all suspicious activities...the illegal-alien proponets are too cowardly to say outright that they want to live in American space but act as though they are still in their original countries of origin...so they make up lies to explain their actions....it's all deceit to promote their agenda...I'm tired of people who want to promote something but are afraid to tell the truth of their motives...cowards and liars....PUKE!!!
 
Azurefly, since you simply had to try and bust springmom's chops publicly, then I'll do this in public also.

Springmom knows L&P doesn't require a gun-related post. Apparently you missed the 99 other times this has been brought up in the last week? [/sarcasm]

This is yet another illegal immigration thread (YAIIT). I suspect before too long, it will devolve into rhetoric and polemics and will get shut down. This despite the fact that we have a bona-fide legal issue before us.

And now you tell me you didn't catch the sarcasm of springmom's post? Of course you didn't, or you wouldn't have posted what you did!!

I haven't seen this said in quite a while, so...

Write once, think twice, before posting.
 
GoSlash27,
I'm with Springmom. It's apparent by the responses that many responders here didn't read the article.
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I read the article. See these relevant quotes:

Brazosport District Spokesman Stuart Dornburg said, “A group of parents, who are volunteers, did get up on stage and recite the pledge to the Mexican flag … the students did not recite the pledge.”...The volunteers handed out small Mexican flags for the children to hold during the recitation, Dornburg said.
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If I had a kid going to school there you can bet I’d be raising cane. There is a huge difference between teaching kids about Mexican independence which could include telling them what the Mexican pledge is (why my tax dollars go to that is a topic for another thread), and passing out Mexican flags for the kids to wave while a group of adults recites the Mexican pledge.
 
It's apparent by the responses that many responders here didn't read the article.
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Oh,,, I read the article,,,I just simply don't believe the school spokesperson abuot exactly what took place...
The article says a "group of parents", which I have to presume were there when it happened.
Then it goes on to say "Brazosport District Spokesman Stuart Dornburg" , who may or may not have been there and may or may not be telling the whole truth....

Mexico is being shoved down our collective throats.
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Amen to that..
 
Fox news had a 30 second quickie on it this morning. There is possibly more to this than meets the eye but if it was me and my kids id be ready to lynch the guy that decided this was OK.

SW
 
Personally, I don't think much of the idea of being required to pledge allegiance to anyone or anything, especially a piece of cloth. And I also don't like what I call flag waving, which is a form of cheap patriotism. It doesn't cost anything, if you follow me. However, I think we ought to have a draft. It appears to be inconsistant. If you don't think we should have a draft, logically you probably wouldn't believe in paying taxes. Let someone volunteer to pay for government. But we tried that once already.

But concerning Mexicans, and not all Hispanics (a word I don't like) are from Mexico, it will not be possible for them to remain Mexicans once they are here. It doesn't work that way. They change. We change, too, but that is another story.

No, I'm not an Indian--I mean I'm not a native American. My family has been here 350 years and we're not hyphenated Americans either. I guess we don't know what to call ourselves.
 
"If you don't think we should have a draft, logically you probably wouldn't believe in paying taxes."

Maybe Jammer is right. Sometimes the only possible response is "Huh?"

Tim
 
Simply change channels, different tune is only a mouse click away.
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Or you could change venues...also just a mouse click away.

Threads like this devolve almost as quickly as religious threads into unproductive name-calling and soundbite-slinging.

Occasionally, I get messages from nonplussed members who ask why their thread was closed, and why a certain topic is not "allowed" on TFL.

The answer is simple...it's not the topic that's contentious, it's the inability of some members to debate the topic in a manner that's civil, productive, and reflective of the standards we wish to associate with this board.

As for the suggestion that we could just "remove the offending posts", I can tell you that neither myself nor the other staff members want to spend most of their time deleting single posts from threads. In addition, such a course of action would disrupt the continuity of a thread, even if it was feasible.

Therefore, certain thread subjects will result in thread closure. I can usually tell merely from the thread title when such a closure is necessary. Take the example of this thread title...is that an attempt to offer a subject for reasoned debate, or is the title itself already indicative of the intention of the thread starter?

This thread is closed. Start one on immigration issues that goes for two pages without a single "La Raza" reference or calls for lynchings or machine-gunning wetbacks, and I'll start to reconsider my position. As things stand, some of you aren't mature and level-headed enough to discuss the subject here.
 
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