Another question for an anti.....or a Million Mommer

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Lavan

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Pose a scenario. Especially to a mother or a teacher. This is it:

You and your children are at a nice lunch having Happy Meals and balloons. Suddenly, a gunman, mad at the world because HIS family is broken up, enters the restaurant. He has a gun. He begins shooting moms and kids because he is a frustrated madman.

Now....would you rather have a law-abiding gun-carrying patron at another booth -- OR --wait 15-20 minutes for troops to arrive from a 911 call?


Now....if they counter with the "guns should be registered" whiny yap, hit em with the question of how a bureaucrat with a form listing his gun could prevent his action.
 
"This wouldn't happen if there weren't guns in the first place."

:rolleyes:

I've been through this sooooo mnay times. They always have some rediculous fantasy world answer.

CMOS

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No offense, because I personally agree with you about the McDonald's scenario, but...
I think most "anti" moms and teachers are aready so deep in the "accept when you are a victim" mindset that they will just think the good guy with the gun will either get shot or enrage the madman even more ( :confused: ), so he would kill *more* people. Thus, it would be the good guy's fault if anyone was hurt after he pulls his gun. Yeah, it's pretty stupid, but, then so is the whole anti("I'll be a victim") mindset. And if it were just an armed robber, they would think the same thing. "Well, the guy just wanted the money. Nothing would have happened if that crazy guy (the armed citizen) with the gun hadn't threatened the robber. He would've just taken the money and left." Of course, we all know that's not always the case, but nobody ever thinks *they* will be a victim until it's too late.
Unfortunately (thanks to the media), "armed citizens" are usually viewed as crazy vigilantes who are unnecessary in the modern "civilized" society.
maybe the rape in broad daylight scenario would be better? I don't know. :(

The point about registration is a good one.

[This message has been edited by CindyH (edited July 25, 2000).]
 
Change your hypothetical situation... Bubba, hacked off that his ol' lady's moved out, along with the rugrats, and left no forwarding address, has shown up at the local Mickey D's with a two-foot long machete, and is attempting to slice and dice his way into the play area. You've got 30 seconds before he's within reach of YOUR kid. Who'd you rather have sitting at the next table: (1) gun nut, packing, (2) soccer mom with cell phone, (3) lawyer, ready to serve the guy with papers?
 
"It wouldn't happen if there weren't any guns."

Ask: Is that a reasonable assumption?

If they seem to be accepting of a "victim" fate.

Ask: Don't you think your children might want to live to grow up?


ALWAYS ASK QUESTIONS.

NEVER make a pro-gun statement. Channel them into seeing their FAULTY REASONING.

An ARGUMENT cements their position. A loaded question stops their synapses from working.

To begin with, you will be talking to an anti-Constitutional traitor. You MUST keep them on the defensive. In fact, that is another good question.

Would you like your children to grow up free and independent or like the cooked children in Nazi Germany? (joke) Don't use that one.
 
Bogie, bad scenario. Why waste a perfectly good cartridge when you can toss them the lawyer and make your escape while they are busy hacking them?

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

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People need a reality check, that guns are not the only instrument that can be used to maim.

That is why, when I use scenarios, I ALWAYS use an example of someone with a blade or tire iron, or any other tool used as a weapon.
People need to realize that a blade is VERY deadly, and stopping a madman with a knife is no easy task, even for several strong young men!

Murder was not invented with guns, there have been many tools used for death through time, some of them very efficient. Taking guns away does not stop murderous rampages.

(Use an example: just a few days ago in an LA suburb, FOUR people were murdered in a home by a man with a knife, and he got away. At least if he had used a gun it would have alerted people. In that case, a knife was much more deadly than a gun would have been.
You probably did not hear about it on the news because the bad guy did not use a gun.)



Also, regarding the "making guns disappear" idea....ask them how well banning narcotics has worked in keeping drugs out of criminals hands????
Even with the billions of dollars spent on "the war on drugs", how tough is it for a bad person (or most any person), with one phone call, to get some illegal drugs? Okay, now why would it be any harder to get an illegal gun if guns were banned?






[This message has been edited by Red Bull (edited July 25, 2000).]
 
Lavan, your big mistake is not understating the Million “MORON” emotional lack of reasoning. They all know; if “YOU” can’t have a gun all the bad guys won't either. See how simple it is to make the world a better place and “save the children”?

Logic doesn’t work on those people because they don’t think logically.




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Don't stop at one goofy answer. Be Socrates. Always have a question ready, not a statement.

What would you do if a maniac burst into your local fast-food joint while you were in line with your kids, swinging a machete?

(I would run away, I would call the cops, or whatever other alternative they think of.)

OK, fair enough. Now, when you run away, will you be carrying the kids, or can they run as fast as you can, or will you just be leaving them behind to slow down the maniac?

ASK QUESTIONS. And be ready, because when they do hit a dead end, they'll simply switch the subject so fast it'll make your head spin. And don't get too judgmental because I'd do the same with certain subjects and so would most of you--we all have certain issues about which we're more emotional than logical.
 
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