I had a kimber custom target that I got rid of last weekend.I traded it for a Smith 686.The gun would only shoot 5 to 6 inch groups rested at 25 yards.I also have a brand new custom classic.This gun will shoot 2 to 3 inche at 25 but it has its share of problems.The thumb saftey will not operate after the gun is fired.Also something is gouging the frame where the barrel link and pin sit.They told to send it back.They laughed when I told them to send me out a call tag to save me 30.00 dollars.I am loosing faith the product and customer support.Does any else have problems with their products. Might trade it for a Glock 21.