Another Beretta question

KelBench400

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What is the difference between the 92FS Inox and the 92FS Brigadier? I like the way the stainless 92's look and I might just buy one. Any help would be appreciated.

Kel
 
The difference between the Beretta 92FS, and the 92 Brigadier is that the Brigadier has a heavier recontoured slide, and I think it has a dovetailed front sight as well. I do not think that there are any other differences, both the 92FS, and the Brigadier are available in Bruniton, and Stainless.
 
ditto what wildkard said.
Also, I *think* certain Brig. models may have come w/ rubber wrap-around grips.

rvb
 
rvb is right. The Brig can be found with wraparound grips, but can also be found with the more normal grips. You can buy wraparounds aftermarket for about $20, so don't let that be the deciding factor.

The Brig has a heavier slide - but is especially strong around the shell case, where traditional 92 slides have (after lots of shooting) been prone to crack. The Brig should be crack-proof, assuming you don't shoot +p+ all day. It's one tough gun.

The Brig also has a loop ring at the base of the handle (to wear it as jewelry, I guess).

I've got a 92G Elite II coming this week - it's a 'competition' version of the Brig, with a decocker-mechanism, but no safety, a slightly shorter barrel, and a MUCH smoother trigger - if you can find one of those, try it before you decide on the others. Otherwise, the Brig is VERY cool.
 
My 92fs is the best shooting gun I've ever owned, including 3 colt 1911's. 4" groups offhand at 25yds is pretty easy. I can't do that with any other gun I've ever shot. I would like to get a Brigadier also. I just wish it was a little slimmer like my BHP.
 
OK - here is my considered opinion based on as much information as I have been able to find over the years. I'm prepared to be proven wrong with facts, not second hand rumors. The only Beretta 92's to have documentable cracked slides were ones that the SEALS used an excessive amount of proof loads in after they were issued the pistols. Many thousands of rounds in several pistols. Would have damaged any pistol. No Beretta slides cracked during the tests for which pistol would be the new armed forces issue. Those pistols were fired 10's of thousands of rounds apiece with standard NATO issue ball ammo which is pretty hot stuff and came through with flying colors. Twice. Beretta added the slide retention device (making the 92F the 92FS) more for public relations than necessity. There hasn't ever been a documented case of a civilian 92F or 92FS slide seperation. Locking blocks, sure. They've been redesigned and I think most failures there were due to owner inattention to proper lubrication. You've got to lube the locking blocks just like other metal-to-metal parts of any pistol. However some people never let a good story die and as new generations of shooters kept hearing how "Beretta slides are prone to breaking" Beretta produced the Brigadier so that those that liked the pistol but had reservations about the strength would have something to feel comfortable with. I'm sure the heavier slide makes the pistol a softer shooter but the 92FS's I've had shoot just fine. I know there are other improvements to the Brigadier and more power to owners of a fine pistol. I'm just sick and tired of hearing this slide cracking BS tossed out there so casually. I've heard from coworkers about seeing it happen in person and after trying to get specifics they can't remember who the shooter was or what really happened or what day it was, etc. If I'm wrong hit me with the facts. I consider the Beretta 92F one of the all time most dependable, and if not abused, rugged handguns ever invented. Lube it right and if you're going to shoot +P ammo in it put in a stronger recoil spring and magazine springs. The Wolff trigger spring assembley looks like a good idea but probably isn't necessary for the average guy who won't shoot 10,000 rounds out of any one pistol in a lifetime. BTW, I own Kimber, Kahr, Glock, Beretta, Browning, S&W and Ruger pistols. They're all great in their own way. I don't have anything that's not reliable. Cheers.
 
I have a 92F and a 96D Brigadier. Love them both. I am very intrigued by the Elite II 96.

The only drawback is true Brigadier holsters are not common, and contrary to what a dealer with a standard size holster may tell you, they DO NOT WORK WELL. I know this from experience.;)
 
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