First let me give you some insight on my system . I order powder in 8 pound container an transfer to a 1 poung same powder . I keep a 1 pound jar no lable to dump spent primers need I go further . After sizing an deprime I removed the fired primers from the cup on the rockchucker an dumped them in a full 1 pound jug of IMR 4064 . Time for a system change and I can't stop saying what a A_ _ H _ _ _ I am.
Another A H moment
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Calling yourself uncomplimentary names will not help. Making a mistake does not make you an AH.
Recognising you need a system change is a very good observation.An AH might not do that.
Among the most dangerous,gun wrecking,injury causing reloading mistakes is grabbing the wrong powder canister. Loading a fast ball pistol powder in the hopper instead of Win 748 to load rifle cartridges,for example.
If there is more than one powder canister on the bench,you can grab the wrong one. Murphy's law.
This time,it was only spent primers.
I suggest only one powder canister on your bench.
There are other containers to use for utility containers.
For no extra charge I'll make another suggestion. This is an SOP from a chem lab I worked next to.
When you transfer your powder or select a powder for a load,read the label out loud,twice.Something about reading it aloud requires the brain to be more engaged.
There is another post up about an ND with a revolver..IIRC three people opened the wheel and called it clear before the ND. One nickel plated round hiding in a stainless gun. Complacency,seeing what you expect to see.Going through the motions.Getting distracted.
It seems hokey,reading the label out loud. Its a good idea.
Recognising you need a system change is a very good observation.An AH might not do that.
Among the most dangerous,gun wrecking,injury causing reloading mistakes is grabbing the wrong powder canister. Loading a fast ball pistol powder in the hopper instead of Win 748 to load rifle cartridges,for example.
If there is more than one powder canister on the bench,you can grab the wrong one. Murphy's law.
This time,it was only spent primers.
I suggest only one powder canister on your bench.
There are other containers to use for utility containers.
For no extra charge I'll make another suggestion. This is an SOP from a chem lab I worked next to.
When you transfer your powder or select a powder for a load,read the label out loud,twice.Something about reading it aloud requires the brain to be more engaged.
There is another post up about an ND with a revolver..IIRC three people opened the wheel and called it clear before the ND. One nickel plated round hiding in a stainless gun. Complacency,seeing what you expect to see.Going through the motions.Getting distracted.
It seems hokey,reading the label out loud. Its a good idea.
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The only thing that was at the bench was the cases being sized an deprimed , when I was finished I opened the cabinet , didn't even look at the jar , only have one powder at a time in there with the old used primer ( powder ) jar with label removed an rubber bands around the out side . Even with that , I grabbed the well marked FULL one pound powder jar an dumped the burned up primers right in. I did stare at it in disbelief for about 20 seconds before I called myself curse words no one ever heard of.
All is well now , guess I'll cross off rock climbing & sky diving off my list. Maybe go swimming with sharks , forgot I can't swim. I'm batting 1000. Even though my gun is clean an it was a good day at the range. Be Well
Chris
The only thing that was at the bench was the cases being sized an deprimed , when I was finished I opened the cabinet , didn't even look at the jar , only have one powder at a time in there with the old used primer ( powder ) jar with label removed an rubber bands around the out side . Even with that , I grabbed the well marked FULL one pound powder jar an dumped the burned up primers right in. I did stare at it in disbelief for about 20 seconds before I called myself curse words no one ever heard of.
All is well now , guess I'll cross off rock climbing & sky diving off my list. Maybe go swimming with sharks , forgot I can't swim. I'm batting 1000. Even though my gun is clean an it was a good day at the range. Be Well
Chris
I recondition brass and do the actual loading in separate processes (but I use a progressive). So my "hybrid" system self-alleviates your problem; as the only time propellant is on the bench is when I'm loading - not de-capping brass. Furthermore, when the little primer catcher on my press gets full, I dump it in a small trash container on the bench - then out to the garbage cans.
Nick_C_S
My powder wasn't at the bench , that's what makes it worse . I opened thecabinet an removed the wrong jug . For some reason I started putting them in a unlabeled 1 pound powder jug with rubber bands around the outside so I wouldn't do what I did . I reload upstairs it's better to just dump them in a plastic bag throw them out each time . With my luck I'd pick a bag with a hole in it . Be Well.
Chris
My powder wasn't at the bench , that's what makes it worse . I opened thecabinet an removed the wrong jug . For some reason I started putting them in a unlabeled 1 pound powder jug with rubber bands around the outside so I wouldn't do what I did . I reload upstairs it's better to just dump them in a plastic bag throw them out each time . With my luck I'd pick a bag with a hole in it . Be Well.
Chris
You could try using a strainer and shaking it over a bucket. The powder will go through and the spent primers won't. IIRC, 4064 has rather long grains so they may be a bit slower going through the strainer but is is a way to salvage the powder.
I've used a strainer when pulling bullets. Dump the powder and bullets into the strainer and a few shakes and the components are separated.
Paul B.
I've used a strainer when pulling bullets. Dump the powder and bullets into the strainer and a few shakes and the components are separated.
Paul B.
JeepHammer
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I gotta go with some of the guys, not an 'AH', you simply found a deficiency in your system.
Have a problem, fix a problem, not an AH.
Find a problem and continue the same practice, most certainly not too bright, but questionable about the AH question.
Make a mistake & blame someone else, most certainly an AH!
I was tearing some questionable rounds down, collecting the powder, opened a brand new can of Varget and poured Benchmark right in there!
The grass is looking a little yellow where $30+ of powder got dumped...
'Black' cans now get colored stickers on the lids that match the color coding I use for different caliber tool heads & supporting hardware... Those colored price tag stickers make good (cheap) target dots too!
Have a problem, fix a problem, not an AH.
Find a problem and continue the same practice, most certainly not too bright, but questionable about the AH question.
Make a mistake & blame someone else, most certainly an AH!
I was tearing some questionable rounds down, collecting the powder, opened a brand new can of Varget and poured Benchmark right in there!
The grass is looking a little yellow where $30+ of powder got dumped...
'Black' cans now get colored stickers on the lids that match the color coding I use for different caliber tool heads & supporting hardware... Those colored price tag stickers make good (cheap) target dots too!
JeepHammer
Moderator
Nope...
When it comes to tooling or the process, I don't just turn over every rock, I'll roll every rock until it's round.
For me, there is no 'Safe' tolerance for powder/primer contamination.
When in doubt, throw it out.
With your situation, I might have spent $50 on specific size sifting screen... To save $20 worth of powder...
Hope my tomatoes don't grow fuses!
When it comes to tooling or the process, I don't just turn over every rock, I'll roll every rock until it's round.
For me, there is no 'Safe' tolerance for powder/primer contamination.
When in doubt, throw it out.
With your situation, I might have spent $50 on specific size sifting screen... To save $20 worth of powder...
Hope my tomatoes don't grow fuses!