Anarchy in England?

Jffal

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With strict measures taken against citizens who wish to possess everything from weapons to certain horror/ action videos, I find it disconcerting that this article would be even posted. Why, you start getting the impression that something besides firearms, knives and video nasties is to blame for criminality. The implication here is that England's disarmed population is barely held in check by a shrinking police force.
Jeff

Yahoo! News - Police battling 'inner-city anarchy'

Address:http://uk.news.yahoo.com/000515/115/a6yqg.html

Monday May 15, 7:30 PM
 Yahoo! News
Police battling 'inner-city anarchy'
Police forces in the inner cities are so short-staffed they are barely able to control the "anarchy" on the streets, according to the head of the Police Federation.
Chairman Fred Broughton will call on Home Secretary Jack Straw for a Royal Commission to look into the future of policing.
The Federation, which represents rank and file officers in England and Wales, says the police service is at its lowest ebb in recent memory.
Mr Broughton, speaking on the eve of the Federation's annual conference, said the public was losing confidence in the police while funding was in complete disarray.
He said 90 police stations had closed down in the last 18 months.
He also claimed that forces in London, Leeds, Liverpool and Manchester were so short of officers that they were unable to control what he described as they the anarchy on the streets late at night.
"There is a sense of disorder, and anarchy in many of these areas," Mr Broughton said.
"Most people would avoid these hot spots altogether as there are no police officers to turn to."
No-go areas
He highlighted areas outside pubs and nightclubs between 2200BST and 0200BST which had become no-go areas for many people.
Mr Broughton said the time had come for a review of policing including an examination of the structure of forces, of police training and the merits of patrolling.
He said a Royal Commission would be able to examine the future role of policing in a balanced and non-partisan way.
He also said that crime-busting schemes such as Neighbourhood Watch and special constables could not replace effective policing.
"The truth is that all these alternatives have failed," he said.
"We are seeing communities with no policing at all."
Mr Straw and Tory Leader William Hague will be among a host of high profile figures to join hundreds of police officers from around the country at the Police Federation conference in Brighton over the next four days.
Dave French, chairman of the constables section of the Police Federation, will tell delegates on Tuesday of poor management in the force, dwindling resources and the "haemorrhaging of good officers on a daily basis faster than the drip feed of new recruits can replace them".
Other debates at the conference will cover issues such as sex offenders, liquor licensing powers and driving on drugs.
Mr Straw is due to make an address on Wednesday and is expected to criticise politicians who snipe at the police.
On Thursday Mr Hague will pressure the government to abolish the legal principle of double jeopardy and allow people to be tried twice for the same crime.
The proposal has been condemned as "knee-jerk headline seeking" by Home Office Minister Paul Boateng.
 
Those sheeple will beg the government to place more controls over them, more police, more loss of freedom...

Like lambs to the slaughter... baaaa, baaaa

CMOS

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NRA? Good. Now joing the GOA!
 
[sarcasm on] Nooooo prrrooobbbllleeemmm! Just send in the World Police! Better known as the UN Piece Keepers, The New World Order, The Third Way, The Tyrants. Just beat those suckers into submission. “Thursday Mr Hague will pressure the government to abolish the legal principle of double jeopardy and allow people to be tried twice for the same crime.” Hell why even have a trial. Just have a beheading right there on the spot. [Sarcasm off]

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Guns are not dangerous! People are! RKBA!

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Jerry, you're scary...........you have voiced the nightmare of the free.

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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
Well, the first thing I look at when I read an article is what the article says. It says something inadequate from a journalistic perspective. 'Anarchy', 'inner city anarchy' - what ever happened to the the things they teach in Journalism school: who, what, where, why and when? Who is committing the anarchy, what kind of anarchy is being committed, why is this anarchy committed? Something's amiss here. All the guns in the world won't make a difference if a sheepish people can't even answer the 5 W's.
 
This is just an extension of a problem noted a few months back:

England has a buttload of pubs; and when they close (around 1 am ?), there are a bunch of drunks milling around outside for a couple hours. A few months back, some Brit politico proposed that pubs be allowed to stay open 24hrs...the rationale being that people tend to slam down copious amounts of alcohol because they only have a set limited time period in which to do it. Thus, if pubs didn't close, folks would drink less per unit time. His proposal was rejected, so now some other politicos see this as an opportunity to increase State power and control under the guise of public safety.

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"Quis custodiet ipsos custodes" RKBA!
 
DC,

The "chucking out time" is 10.30pm on a sunday or Bank Holiday and 11.00pm on other nights, both are plus an extra 10 minutes "drinking up time".

Levels of violence at the weekend around 11.30pm in any British city center are scary. Makes New York look like a nice place.

Mike H
 
A favorite Robert Heinlein quote is "an armed society is a polite society."

I guess we learn here that the converse is also true.
 
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