I would like to invite all of you here over for a visit to our forums. Maybe you folks could teach us a few things. Hope you will stop by.
http://pub6.ezboard.com/bhogwildsfreedomforums
http://pub6.ezboard.com/bhogwildsfreedomforums
An invite to all of you here!
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Allen_Raiford
New member
I visited. The racist crap kinda made me want to gag. I'll pass.
O
olazul
Guest
Well,
It certainly has an agenda.
Olazul
It certainly has an agenda.
Olazul
Rich Lucibella
Staff
Hmmmm-
Singularly disinteresting.
Rich
Singularly disinteresting.
Rich
I'm sorry all of you feel that it is a racist board. But it is not. Alot of folks wanted someplace that they could discuss racial issues without being censored. So I set up a racial issues forum for them. I'm sure that if you would also read some of the post on the race forum, you will see that there is an open and honest debate on the subjects posted. Don't just read the first post and give up. We have some pretty good debates on the issue of race. If you are Black and have an issue against white folks, then post it! It is for all races, not just the white race. I put it there for everyone to use. It's just a place for people to sound off!
There are several other boards to choose from, no one told you to visit the race forum. I agree that some may find it offensive, but everyone has a right to their opinion. So I hope you would look past the race board, and contribute to the other forums. Remember! We cannot all agree on everything!
Most of the members you will find on my boards came to them after a big fight on another major board, after they got tired of being censored on every issue. It seems that if some moderators didn't like a post, they would either close the thread, or delete the post. I will not do that. If you have something to say, then say it! But be man enough to accept whatever you might hear in the replies!
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There are several other boards to choose from, no one told you to visit the race forum. I agree that some may find it offensive, but everyone has a right to their opinion. So I hope you would look past the race board, and contribute to the other forums. Remember! We cannot all agree on everything!
Most of the members you will find on my boards came to them after a big fight on another major board, after they got tired of being censored on every issue. It seems that if some moderators didn't like a post, they would either close the thread, or delete the post. I will not do that. If you have something to say, then say it! But be man enough to accept whatever you might hear in the replies!
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Is that the way we call freedom of speech!
Although there is free of expression but I think everyone also should know what is to say to be a rational person. Me from a 3rd world seems has no place in the forum if someone will tell me, that who the hell I am who is from the 3rd world only.
Well, everybody is right to their own opinion but discussings things without an arbiter will be like who comes first, the chicken or the egg and we have an unending discussions.
Thanks
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Although there is free of expression but I think everyone also should know what is to say to be a rational person. Me from a 3rd world seems has no place in the forum if someone will tell me, that who the hell I am who is from the 3rd world only.
Well, everybody is right to their own opinion but discussings things without an arbiter will be like who comes first, the chicken or the egg and we have an unending discussions.
Thanks
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Rich Lucibella
Staff
Point of information. I note that you feature short stories by a Member named "Old Bear". Once upon a lifetime ago, I founded a medical communications company called CyBear. It wasn't until we sought to promote our products on the internet that we learned the term "Bear" is often reserved for a subset of the male homosexual population.
Many were drawn inquisitively to our site. Now, we didn't have any real problem with that and the Company retains it's original name to this day. However, I suspect that you all might expect some visitors with a decidedly different viewpoint from your own.
In any case, good luck with your endeavor. Topic moved from AFCQC to General.
Rich
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Many were drawn inquisitively to our site. Now, we didn't have any real problem with that and the Company retains it's original name to this day. However, I suspect that you all might expect some visitors with a decidedly different viewpoint from your own.
In any case, good luck with your endeavor. Topic moved from AFCQC to General.
Rich
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Hog Wild said: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"I'm sorry all of you feel that it is a racist board. But it is not."[/quote]
However, after perusing his site, I find a pelucid discussion in which the question is posed: "Would you kick Tyra Banks out of bed?"
Our Mr. Hog Wild here (or another like him) answers: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Yep! Real damn quick like! If it ain't "White"! It ain't "Right"![/quote]
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Have fun on your side, Mr. Wilde (oops! I mean Mr. Wild). I'm not into your stuff. Guess that I've more important things to do.
Long Path.
However, after perusing his site, I find a pelucid discussion in which the question is posed: "Would you kick Tyra Banks out of bed?"
Our Mr. Hog Wild here (or another like him) answers: <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>"Yep! Real damn quick like! If it ain't "White"! It ain't "Right"![/quote]
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Have fun on your side, Mr. Wilde (oops! I mean Mr. Wild). I'm not into your stuff. Guess that I've more important things to do.
Long Path.
Allen_Raiford
New member
Sir,
There is nothing politically correct, or otherwise, about having respect for all races of humans.
May I suggest inviting people from this site, http://www.blackplanet.com/, to visit yours. I am sure they would be happy to clear up some misconceptions.
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There is nothing politically correct, or otherwise, about having respect for all races of humans.
May I suggest inviting people from this site, http://www.blackplanet.com/, to visit yours. I am sure they would be happy to clear up some misconceptions.
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Gwinnydapooh
Retired Screen Name
What's the big deal? Nobody's talking about censoring the board, just not visiting again. You're all staying well within your rights on both sides. No need to get testy.
I haven't checked the board yet. I'll do that in a sec here. but I will interject a comment on the trouble some people have with real freedom of speech. If you choose to censor certain things in your living room and I choose to listen to them and try to refute them, that does not make me any worse than you. Get over it. I used to have a debate board on insidetheweb where my dream was that racists and anti-racists would talk to each other. I chose not to moderate except for personal attacks on posters and spam. The racists all called me a flaming liberal because I wouldn't take their sides in the debates. The anti-racists all called me a racist, a skinhead and a Nazi-wannabe because I didn't censor the racists. My position was, if we really think we have better solutions to the world's problems than these skinheads, why are we so afraid to debate them? Why must we label anyone willing to talk to them a racist as well?
Time to go check the boards and see if there's anything there to change my mind.
(The debate board I had is gone now because both sides spammed so much, but you can still see some of the site here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/6297/idiots.html
Note that you can clearly see my stance on the issue of racism from this page. Doesn't stop a lot of people from simply assigning you the beliefs they'd like you to have for the purposes of argument, though. Some people prefer the debate to any solution they might find.
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I haven't checked the board yet. I'll do that in a sec here. but I will interject a comment on the trouble some people have with real freedom of speech. If you choose to censor certain things in your living room and I choose to listen to them and try to refute them, that does not make me any worse than you. Get over it. I used to have a debate board on insidetheweb where my dream was that racists and anti-racists would talk to each other. I chose not to moderate except for personal attacks on posters and spam. The racists all called me a flaming liberal because I wouldn't take their sides in the debates. The anti-racists all called me a racist, a skinhead and a Nazi-wannabe because I didn't censor the racists. My position was, if we really think we have better solutions to the world's problems than these skinheads, why are we so afraid to debate them? Why must we label anyone willing to talk to them a racist as well?
Time to go check the boards and see if there's anything there to change my mind.
(The debate board I had is gone now because both sides spammed so much, but you can still see some of the site here: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Olympus/6297/idiots.html
Note that you can clearly see my stance on the issue of racism from this page. Doesn't stop a lot of people from simply assigning you the beliefs they'd like you to have for the purposes of argument, though. Some people prefer the debate to any solution they might find.
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Gwinnydapooh
Retired Screen Name
Hmmm . . . OK. If you guys don't want to go back, feel free. Personally, I'll probably go back if I'm still interested tomorrow, cluebat in hand.
I say again, if you're not willing to discuss an issue with people on the other side, how strongly do you really believe in your logic?
I say again, if you're not willing to discuss an issue with people on the other side, how strongly do you really believe in your logic?
Rich Lucibella
Staff
Gwinny
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The debate board I had is gone now because both sides spammed so much[/quote]
Interesting observation. It parallels my own conclusions: You can have a totally unmonitored board temporarily or take heat from those who consider you "too PC" and provide a real opportunity for discussion permanent-like.
Rich
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The debate board I had is gone now because both sides spammed so much[/quote]
Interesting observation. It parallels my own conclusions: You can have a totally unmonitored board temporarily or take heat from those who consider you "too PC" and provide a real opportunity for discussion permanent-like.
Rich
Gwinnydapooh
Retired Screen Name
True. And I must grudgingly admit that your little board is a tad busier than mine. 
But this is a board for people who agree. Mine was for people who disagree to debate and come together. Different approaches for different goals. Of course, my experience was that people couldn't disagree like adults on my board, but you can't win 'em all. Actually I'm not sure how the board ended. I was gone for summer vacation and when I came back there was nothing but spam in 3-inch letters. I deleted everything and soon the regulars came back, but it was never the same because the spammers wouldn't let go. Finally I asked who'd like to take over the board. Only one of the racist regulars wanted it so I changed the password and gave him the new one. WIthin a week I checked back and ITW had deleted the board. Maybe somebody reported the language or something.
I did learn a lot from the racists who came to debate, though. They aren't all the freaks you might want to think they are. I also learned some uncomfortable things; one of the regulars who was also a member of the church of the creator was from Springfield, IL and taught me a lot about how active they really are half an hour from my family. Another good reason to have several rifles in good working order. <shudder>He basically told me that if "RaHoWa" ever came, they'd pick off houses one by one in small packs. </shudder>
I told him that the packs would likely pile up along the edges of my property.
But this is a board for people who agree. Mine was for people who disagree to debate and come together. Different approaches for different goals. Of course, my experience was that people couldn't disagree like adults on my board, but you can't win 'em all. Actually I'm not sure how the board ended. I was gone for summer vacation and when I came back there was nothing but spam in 3-inch letters. I deleted everything and soon the regulars came back, but it was never the same because the spammers wouldn't let go. Finally I asked who'd like to take over the board. Only one of the racist regulars wanted it so I changed the password and gave him the new one. WIthin a week I checked back and ITW had deleted the board. Maybe somebody reported the language or something.
I did learn a lot from the racists who came to debate, though. They aren't all the freaks you might want to think they are. I also learned some uncomfortable things; one of the regulars who was also a member of the church of the creator was from Springfield, IL and taught me a lot about how active they really are half an hour from my family. Another good reason to have several rifles in good working order. <shudder>He basically told me that if "RaHoWa" ever came, they'd pick off houses one by one in small packs. </shudder>
I told him that the packs would likely pile up along the edges of my property.
Rich Lucibella
Staff
Gwinny-
I take it back. The hell with "traffic"...quality counts! I spent a truly enjoyable 1/2 hour on your Board and consider it a "must read". Great choices and great insight.
Thanks-
Rich Lucibella
I take it back. The hell with "traffic"...quality counts! I spent a truly enjoyable 1/2 hour on your Board and consider it a "must read". Great choices and great insight.
Thanks-
Rich Lucibella