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USP45

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MIT in the 22nd Century?

I seem to remember that MIT has had problems keeping it's fraternaties from literally drinking themselves to death.

And MIT's idea of dealing with the homeless and recycling is a $0.05 deposit system for pop cans and bottles that they leave littered all over the campus for the 'bums' to pick up. (This was told to me, in all cander, during a presentation of an economic model of current recycling techniques.)

MIT - "We know more about everything than you do... so how do you get this thing to work again?"

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Statistically, chances are higher (in the US) to die from a gun "accident" then a really planned (criminal) use of a gun... [/quote]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>In Boston at the MIT I felt like being in the 22 century already. Everybody peaceful, friendly and unarmed. [/quote]

Uhh... MIT still has a competition shooting club.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>First of all, if you want a gun then prove that you are mentally capable of judging the effects of the gun. [/quote]

'Scuse me Mate, but didn't Olde King George decree that all signers of the Declaration of Independance were dangerously lacking in mental temperment? (or some such wording)

Exactly which statistics are you refering to, to ones that NEJM rescinded?


<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>So no gun for those people either. [/quote]

Oh, (yeah, it took me awhile to see this one) very hostile line, which apparently has no purpose other than to troll...

Over and out



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~USP

"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
Troll, bait and irritate.
Stats from wholecloth.
Non existant examples.

If a black helicopter flys low and slow with a net, could it be trawling for trolls? Would it work?

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Sam I am, grn egs n packin

Nikita Khrushchev predicted confidently in a speech in Bucharest, Rumania on June 19, 1962 that: " The United States will eventually fly the Communist Red Flag...the American people will hoist it themselves."
 
I agree with what someone else said about him not being a citizen of this country. Also, I was nearly stabbed to death in Germany, outside of a club. I had an evil gun pointed at me the same night. My buddy was clubbed on the head with a lead filled baseball bat, and another friend had a gun shot at his face at close range, and also was stabbed. So much for peaceful Germany. Also, not to long ago, a woman blew herself up with a handgrenade in a Frankfurt square. Also, he is from the part of Europe whose ass we kicked, not from the part whose ass we saved.

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"Vote with a Bullet."
 
Since Helge mentions this thread but has not commented on your crime victim status but has saw fit to start yet another thread, I guess that speaks volumes.

I suggest you repost this in his new thread.

Rick
 
I am, don't worry. But what do you expect me to do? I amd sorry to hear that you have been attacked in Germany. It happens sadly. I don't recall that I personally attacked you. Am I guilty because somebody else with the same citizenship committed a crime? Are you guilty because somebody with your citizenship triggered the worlds first mass destruction weapons condemming millions over millions to a terrible death in the past and continuing for the next million years?

And please, YOU did not "kick anybodies ass". Don't spit on the honour and deed of those who gave their lives in service to stop the Nazi terror by claiming any form of ownership for their deed.

It is amazing how easily people claim ownership for good things that they neither took part in nor understand fully, yet deny ownership on all that is bad done by groups connected to them the same way (ie historically)

cheers

Helge

PS: This is about gun control :) Just a reminder
 
No, it is about elitism in someone else's country. Why may I ask was a shotgun aimed at you? Were you being an elitist on someone else's property? Probably. By the way, last time I was in Germany, I noticed that most of y'all's women gravitated towards Americans. They must have liked our gun control better. I share in our country's military heritage. I am a part of it. Just like you are a part of a military heritage that has lost both World Wars.

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"Vote with a Bullet."
 
Claemore, such an answer (especially the women thing) always makes me laugh. That's the kind of rethoric I always hear from the 5 year olds I work with.
"But my daddy makes more money then yours! So there!"

cheers

Helge
 
Claemore, I think you got to him that time, he misspelled rhetoric. Not that I'm any great speller, but this guy is suppose to be the big foreign brain. :D
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by HelgeS:
It is amazing how easily people claim ownership for good things that they neither took part in nor understand fully, yet deny ownership on all that is bad done by groups connected to them the same way (ie historically)
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Almost as amazing how anti-gun folks decry the elimination of rights for all based on the actions of one individual.

BUT, not quite as amazing as the level of mis information generated by the anti-gun culture, bent on controlling the population by eliminating the populations ability to resist control.

Truely amazing!



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~USP

"[Even if there would be] few tears shed if and when the Second Amendment is held to guarantee nothing more than the state National Guard, this would simply show that the Founders were right when they feared that some future generation might wish to abandon liberties that they considered essential, and so sought to protect those liberties in a Bill of Rights. We may tolerate the abridgement of property rights and the elimination of a right to bear arms; but we should not pretend that these are not reductions of rights." -- Justice Scalia 1998
 
Helge,

Why don't you go buy yourself a nice .22 single shot rifle, or better yet, a .58 muzzle-loader, and spend some time at the range with people who know about shooting?

Just a friendly suggestion.

BTW,I had a great time when I was in Germany.
 
Heh, heh.....

"22nd century?"

I believe someone else has already tried to create a "peaceful, friendly and unarmed" country around the 1930's.....

It was us psychotic gung-ho Yanks that put a big spoke in that sick wheel, wasn't it?!?!

But what do i know?! I didn't go to Yale....
 
Howdy Helge!

Welcome to TFL! First off, I'd ask you not to get too riled up at some of these guys on here. They (we) have seen not only rights progressively destroyed, but an entire culture defamed. That's gonna raise some hackles, and you happen to be on the receiving end of long years of frustration. Sorry about the cold welcome, I've been on that end of the stick myself. (And guys -- I'm on your side, believe me)

Anyhow.. I thought I'd speak up because I used to have very similar beliefs to yours. I thought guns were a scourge -- that the best thing that could happen to us as a people would be for them all to be gathered up and melted down. To me guns were crude, imprecise, and if not the root of American violence, at least "they made it a whole lot easier"
(credit Robin Williams)

Thing was, even if you don't go looking for trouble, sometimes it finds you. And when it does -- there's nothing you want more than one of those "crude imprecise roots of American violence." (Or better yet a Glock ;) )

I have other stories, but I'll use this one. A while back, I was moving cross-country to start a new job in California. Just me and my little VW, all alone. Everything was great until New Mexico. A man leered at me at a filling station, and I thought "gee.. he looks familiar." Then I saw him again.. and again. He and his buddy ended up stalking me across the WHOLE STATE. Now New Mexico isn't small, and even with 80 MPH freeways that means these guys were putting out a lot of time and gas keeping pace with me .. and they weren't exactly your country gentleman come calling for a date, if you get my drift.

Call the police on my cell phone? Cells weren't as common then as they are now, and I certainly couldn't afford one -- and I was likely far outside a service area. Drop by a police station? Where? Sixty miles from anywhere on a lonely stretch of desert freeway? Because that's where I was when I (finally) realized what was going on. The only thing I had available was an old .22 pistol of my grandfather's.. a weapon I promptly (illegally) loaded and kept on the seat beside me until I managed to lose them, find my hotel, and ask the receptionist to phone the police if they showed up.

Now, I was lucky that day -- I managed to evade them. Every now and again though.. I have wondered if perhaps the next woman they found on that freeway wasn't so fortunate.

That story is especially haunting to me now, because in my new home state of Idaho, just a few weeks ago a woman was run off the road, robbed, beaten, and left for dead beside her burning car. Three years ago, that could have been me.

No problem, you might say. A weapons ban would catch these guys to, and they couldn't have done such a horrid act.

Thing was these guys used baseball bats and knives.

For the first time in my life, I saw a newspaper editorial where the SHERIFF of the county was urging women to take a CCW course for their own protection.

You see, it was once said
"God made man -- Sam Colt made them equal"

A handgun means one woman can defend herself against a car full of attackers. Pepper spray can't do it, and martial arts can't do it. Not with those odds.

My .45 can.

And that, Helge, is why I treasure the 2nd Amendment. Not just for what it means to us as a people, but for what it means to me as a woman. I sat alone tonight on the top of a lonely ridge, miles from town, watching the sunset.

One woman, alone. Secure.

I guess some of us really need to be in the position where we desperately *need* a gun before we can appreciate the importance of our right to own one.

I hope you don't have to go through a near miss, like mine -- or worse, a tragedy -- to discover that.

Peace-

-Kaylee
 
There are some things that we wish we could "dis-invent". Whether one puts guns into that category, or not, the act of "dis-invention" isn't possible. Guns exist. They are threaded into our (the world's) population so thoroughly that they can NEVER be completely eradicated. Many people have enough skill and knowledge to make a gun (AND ammo!) from common materials.

An intelligent person should be able to recognize when an attempted action (confiscation?) is futile. A good definition of insane is doing the same thing (passing more gun laws?) over and over and expecting to eventually get different results (an end to gun violence?)!
 
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