AMT .45 Backup Problems

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Just bought a new one from High Standard and already having trouble. Firing pin was broken when I tried to fire the first round at the range. I sent it back, they fixed it, and now having both failure to feed, and failure to eject problems. Out of a box of shells, only got six consecutive shots, otherwise there was a jam every two or three rounds, and I even had a few live rounds jammed in the ejection port! I took a look at your photo, and the hammer on my gun is also angled in relation to the slide, and it is rubbing against the frame on the left side when the slide comes back so that it is not evenly aligned with the center of the slide and firing pin. Seems like poor quality control. I don't know whether to try and fix these problems myself, or send it back again. Advice?
 
AMT has been out of biz for decades, where are you sending it to? These guns were well known hit and miss QC and the bad ones normally are not worth fixing for lack of new parts and bad manufacturing. You must have bought a used one....
 
No, these are brand new guns manufactured by High Standard, in Texas. They must have bought the manufacturing rights. The serial number on my gun is under 100.
 
Whoa. This sounds like an advertising opportunity for Davidson's Gallery of Guns. If their guarantee is as good as they say, it would be nice to get them into the middle of this.

Did you buy it directly from High Standard? Maybe they'll refund your money - better than bad online reviews, I'd think.
 
I did buy it directly from High Standard. Maybe a refund is the way to go. CLD on this forum had slide/hammer issues with his gun, and used a Dremmel to fix it. I suspect this would void any warranty on a new gun.
 
Davidson's has a TV show on the Sportsman Channel on which they introduce and demonstrate several models of guns that are new or fairly new to the market. This is quoted from their Website:

"If anything ever goes wrong with any gun you buy with the Davidson's GuaranteeDSM Lifetime Replacement Warranty, it will be replaced. If no replacement is available, it will be repaired at no charge to you. Simple, just return it to the GuaranteeDSM retailer where you purchased it, pay for the return shipping and upon receipt Davidson's will ship the returning retailer a brand new gun* for you. "

http://www.galleryofguns.com/about/terms.aspx

Davidson's has what appears to be a valuable warranty for your next purchase, but it is too late for them to help you with this one, because you didn't buy through them.

I don't know if using a Dremel to try to repair a gun voids the warranty, but it sure would void the warranty if I were a manufacturer. Of all things, I would not mess with it like that, at least until after you find out of Hi=Standard will give you a refund or replace the gun with a different one, depending on your preference.
 
I am confused. How has davidson's entered the conversation? I did not see where the OP said anything about buying through gallery of guns
 
I am confused. How has davidson's entered the conversation? I did not see where the OP said anything about buying through gallery of guns
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They were just brought up by another poster because of their warranty. A replacement is not generally given by the manufacturer unless something is REALLY wrong with the firearm... And complete refunds generally aren't given either.
 
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Thanks for the advice. Attached are the images showing the hammer misalignment and where it has damaged the rear left frame as the slide retracts.
 
I would keep sending it back. Sooner or latter you will get your money back or a working gun.

The backup can be royal pain. I tried like heck with mine and finally gave up making it work
 
Good advice. I hate to give up on it already with its sexy attribute of being the smallest .45 pistol in production that I can put in a pocket holster or carry in deep cover. I suppose if something better comes along in a micro .45, all of this hassle will not be worth it, and it will be relegated to a curiosity piece.
 
No experience with it but, perhaps the Kahr PM45? I owned the PM9 and it was initially under a recall for mis-milled slide. Repaired under warranty. This is way back when they first came out. Worked like a gem after that. No failures whatsoever.

The new Semmerling .45 is out. However, it has to be re-cocked, if you will, after each shot. Also, they are upwards of $4400.00. :eek:
 
The backup can be royal pain. I tried like heck with mine and finally gave up making it work
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I have an AMT .45 Backup. After polishing the feed ramp, some other parts to smooth out the action, and replacing the recoil spring with a Wolf spring, it is extremely reliable. After about 150 rounds, continuous shooting, I would experience an occasional failure to fire where a second strike ignited the round. It didn't take long for me to figure out that when the gun gets a little dirty that's when I would experience an occasional problem. So, I just spray it with some powder solvent and the problem goes away. The gun isn't a glock and isn't meant to be shot that much without a quick cleaning.

However, if i was experiencing something like the misalignment shown in the above photos, I'd send it back - while I might be able to get the gun running ok, it would be UGLY and not something I would ever want to tackle.

My view on the AMT 45 Backup is that it has the potential to be a great little .45 DAO. It is very easy to conceal, but it is heavy.
 
The Semmerling .45 is probably not an option for me because of the re-cocking requirement.

I want something in a back-up .45, CCW, not my primary, that fires every time I pull the trigger. I'm still searching for a reliable, deep concealment micro .45. I don't care about how much other folks have had complaints with their hand hurting firing small .45s, unable to handle the recoil, weak grip, "hand cannon" problems. Those are behavioral issues overcome with training and experience, as long as the gun is reliable. On the other hand, my gun is erratic at best.

I don't like the cheap feel of polymer guns, so I will probably stick with cold steel - OK, maybe a little pot metal on the side. I also don't want something UGLY that someone has tried to fix.
 
The AMT 45 Backup is your only option for what you want. Believe me, I researched this thoroughly, and the AMT is the only .45 available that is a true DAO semi-auto in such a small package. There simply is no other option. I have reviewed lists of small .45's and compared dimensions - the AMT 45 Backup is the smallest one.
 
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