Ammo Question (hornady critical defense)

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So I was google'ing terminal ballistics and stumbled on the hornady website and the "new" critical defense bullets. It got me wondering if they are a good choice for my guns or if you have other recommendations.

1st, I know, with an pistol it's a good idea to run a clip's worth through to make sure the guns likes them.

With that in mind, I currently own two firearms;

Taurus tracker .357 Magnum

Astra Model 100 (9mm)

here is a link to the website for hornady.

Basically, I would like to know if these are a good choice or not.

Thanks in advance

-Brandon
 
Your semiauto feeds from a magazine not a clip.

Hornady is one of the manufacturers in the world.

Hornady Critical Defense is excellent.
 
CD seem really good

By the way, you should run more than a 'clip' through to ensure reliabilty - most people suggest 50-100 rounds that are problem free. Maybe trying them with the magazine that came with your gun will work better - just sayin!

By the way, welcome to TFL

Below is a picture of my LCP which loves CD rounds with 4 extra 'clips', erh magazines!
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Alright, I apologize, being a relative newbie to guns in general I always thought the terms "clip" and "magazine" where interchangeable. I suppose now, knowing I'm wrong, is that the difference is one is internal on a pistol, and one is external like an assault rifle?

Either way, thanks for correcting me since I'd rather look dumb on the webernet than at a gun show ;)
 
The Hornaday Critical Defense or the Speer Gold Dot ammo's are very well designed and suit the purpose of Personal Defense ammo perfectly.
If I remember correctly the Hornaday's have better velocities than the Speer's. Velocity = punch thru power. If I'm wrong you can correct me, just don't burn down the barn. Either brand is well suited for both of your handguns.
50 - 100 rounds testing is recommended for sure in the pistol.
18-24 rounds thru a revolver minimum.
Yes, 100 rounds of testing is expensive, but much cheaper than an unexpected malfunction when you need that round to take care of business the most.
Then, keep up on your practice on a regular basis.
 
They are interchangeable; people just seem to enjoy acting like an elitist.
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Negative. A clip is what ammo comes in. As in, a bandolier of 5.56 ammo comes with 10rd clips which are to be loaded into a magazine.

Clip has become a colloquialism when it comes to ammo or guns. In the army at least, they are two different items with different uses.
 
They are interchangeable in the way that you all know exactly what he is talking about. Politely explaining the difference is fine.
 
people unintentionally interchange them, but...

they are definately different. a clip is not synonymous with a magazine like a xerox is with a copy. Clips are entirely different and are a common newby expression. As you become more knowledgable about guns, proper terminology is important and does not mean one is acting like an elitist!
 
Hornady Critical Defense:

This is excellent ammo. I shoot them and carry them both in my wife's .38 Smith and Wesson and my Glock 19 (9mm). They are reliable and accurate and even in .38+P the recoil is not bad as it is only a 110 grain bullet. They are good for penetration as well.
 
"They are interchangeable; people just seem to enjoy acting like an elitist."

Really? Then I guess I'm in the elite, in that I make an effort to use the correct term. Magazines aren't clips and clips aren't magazines, bullets aren't cartridges but cartridges contain bullets, rims aren't wheels but wheels contain rims, shavers aren't razors in spite of Norelco's efforts to corrupt the term, and engines aren't motors, ad nauseum.
 
There's nothing wrong with using correct terminology. The elitism/douchebaggery comes from some people's pathological need to correct someone else's incorrect usage, **even when no one was confused by the misuse in the first place**.

If I ask a clerk for a Norelco electric razor and he feels compelled to point out that it's actually a "shaver" and not a "razor", then I'm sorry, but he's a douchebag.
 
So true ScottRiqui

I think it was my very first post on this forum,,,
I used the word pistol in a question about a Colt revolver.

I was immediately told by no less than 3 people what the "proper" definition of pistol was,,,
And that they were proved correct because that was the distinction made by the feds when buying a handgun.

I had to remind them that when the "Froggy went a courtin",,,
He had "Sword and Pistol" by his side,,,
And that song predated the feds,,,
By a lot of years.

I was actually kind of funny,,,
 
we are here to learn - At least I am

At least three p[eople in this thread have learned the difference between a magazine and a clip. Some are even more enlightened and now know the diffrence between a wheel and rim, a copier and xerox, a shaver and razor. Wow - who'd a thunk??
 
CLIP: A short film, a penalty in football, an automobile accident " someone clipped my car" A metal device that holds paper money, a device for a tie, a term used when cutting coupons, a term used when describing a seedy business, : its a clip joint " last but not least a device ammo is retained in, etc.

MAGAZINE :A weekly, monthly periodical, an educational publication young boys hide from their mothers, a place gunpowder is stored ( powder magazine ) a device inserted in a weapon that holds ammunition. etc:D
 
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Gotta try 'em to find out for sure.

Guns can be funny. One might run empty cases & the next in line might be really fussy. Might be the feed ramp, magazine, phase of the moon on the DOM...;)

Oh... and some clips are internal...:D

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If you think the clip vs. magazine thing is bad, you should see one of the stupid .45 Colt vs. .45 Long Colt debates. Certain things around here seem to set off the self-appointed semantics police.

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They are interchangeable; people just seem to enjoy acting like an elitist.

Negative. A clip is what ammo comes in. As in, a bandolier of 5.56 ammo comes with 10rd clips which are to be loaded into a magazine.
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Actually, 5.56 ammo typically comes loaded in chargers.

Clips are devices that retain ammunition and, along with the ammunition, are inserted into a firearm's magazine or cylinder as a unit. Examples include the moonclips of a revolver, the en-bloc clip of an M1 Rifle, or the Mannlicher clips common to many bolt action rifles such as the Mauser Gew 88 or Mannlicher-Carcano M91.

A charger is a device that retains ammunition and aids in loading it into the magazine but is not inserted itself. Examples include those used to load the M1903 Springfield rifle, SKS rifle, or C96 Mauser "Broomhandle" pistol. A slang, though improper, term for a charger is "stripper clip".

A magazine is a device that both retains and feeds ammunition so that it can be loaded into the chamber of a firearm. In order to be a magazine, a magazine body, follower, and magazine spring are necessary. Examples include the detatchable box magazine of a M1911 pistol, the drum magazine of a Thompson submachinegun, or the tubular magazine of a Remington 870 Shotgun.:D

To answer the OP's original question, Hornady Critical Defense is considered by most to be quite good ammo. However, it is not by any means the only good ammo available. Winchester Supreme SXT, Speer Gold Dots, Remington Golden Sabers, and Federal HST are all well-regarded as well.
 
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