Old Wanderer
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Lets take a hypothetical situation: (And I am not wearing a tin hat and saying it will happen!)
Anarchy has happened. You have gangs/groups going to neighborhoods and taking what they can. Law enforcement has disappeared. I have a very nice home in a "rich" area. I do not share very well with others that have nothing to offer.
I will state my feelings and if you think I am off base, jump in.
I prefer very fast light bullets. They do a lot of damage. Whether I am using my 135 gr 1600 fps 10mm bullets, or my 223 55gr Vmax bullets. If I have to shoot somebody, my main interest is that he goes down. I do not have a major desire to kill everything I shoot. Better if he is wounded has to take some of his friends to help evacuate him. If he is dead, then I still have to contend with his friends. If he is down and yelling/screaming, it might well slow the rest of his comrades down. Since society has failed, the usual concerns about arrest, law suits etc no longer is a factor.
Most of my defense centers around:
Bennelli and 870 shotguns with 00. (i'm pretty quick and accurate with them)
G20c and Kimber 10mm with DT 135 gr nosslers
Various 45's with DT 185 gr Nossler
Various 40SW with Dt 135 Gr Nossler @ 1350 fps
223's with 55gr Vmax or 62 gr HP or 77Gr Vmax
I do have some mag rifles if I have to penetrate a car..(416 Rigby with 410 Gr solids).
What brings all this too mind is Cairo....once law enforcement broke down you had groups looting, raping, killing, and destroying neighborhoods. Those people did not posses guns....only the outlaws had guns. You saw on Arabic TV groups trying to protect their neighborhood with sticks.
Having flown my plane down to Los Angeles 20+ years ago, to spend a few evenings with a Korean girlfriend, and the next day I was right in the middle of the Rodney King "riots". Did not have a clew anything was about to happen. The few police were mainly trying to arrest the Korean shop owners that were defending their property. They ignored the looters and arsonist. I had my 45 and 2 magazines of ammo. (I did have a CA CCW permit back then). She owned a small shop in Korea town that we protected.
We are seeing large protest that are starting to grow as people loose "Entitlements", We see escalating gas and food prices, and falling dollar value. We have 10%++ real unemployment. I certainly don't own some crystal ball, but I do believe in being prepared. Hence these questions. Given the above scenario would you be comfortable with this ammo, or would you choose some heavier bullets.
Anarchy has happened. You have gangs/groups going to neighborhoods and taking what they can. Law enforcement has disappeared. I have a very nice home in a "rich" area. I do not share very well with others that have nothing to offer.
I will state my feelings and if you think I am off base, jump in.
I prefer very fast light bullets. They do a lot of damage. Whether I am using my 135 gr 1600 fps 10mm bullets, or my 223 55gr Vmax bullets. If I have to shoot somebody, my main interest is that he goes down. I do not have a major desire to kill everything I shoot. Better if he is wounded has to take some of his friends to help evacuate him. If he is dead, then I still have to contend with his friends. If he is down and yelling/screaming, it might well slow the rest of his comrades down. Since society has failed, the usual concerns about arrest, law suits etc no longer is a factor.
Most of my defense centers around:
Bennelli and 870 shotguns with 00. (i'm pretty quick and accurate with them)
G20c and Kimber 10mm with DT 135 gr nosslers
Various 45's with DT 185 gr Nossler
Various 40SW with Dt 135 Gr Nossler @ 1350 fps
223's with 55gr Vmax or 62 gr HP or 77Gr Vmax
I do have some mag rifles if I have to penetrate a car..(416 Rigby with 410 Gr solids).
What brings all this too mind is Cairo....once law enforcement broke down you had groups looting, raping, killing, and destroying neighborhoods. Those people did not posses guns....only the outlaws had guns. You saw on Arabic TV groups trying to protect their neighborhood with sticks.
Having flown my plane down to Los Angeles 20+ years ago, to spend a few evenings with a Korean girlfriend, and the next day I was right in the middle of the Rodney King "riots". Did not have a clew anything was about to happen. The few police were mainly trying to arrest the Korean shop owners that were defending their property. They ignored the looters and arsonist. I had my 45 and 2 magazines of ammo. (I did have a CA CCW permit back then). She owned a small shop in Korea town that we protected.
We are seeing large protest that are starting to grow as people loose "Entitlements", We see escalating gas and food prices, and falling dollar value. We have 10%++ real unemployment. I certainly don't own some crystal ball, but I do believe in being prepared. Hence these questions. Given the above scenario would you be comfortable with this ammo, or would you choose some heavier bullets.