ammo failed to go off

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I have never had this happen with factory ammo and was just wondering how common it was. I just got a new encore barrel in 6.8 spc rem and picked up a box of rem express 115gn rounds for it. While sighting the rifle in had six rounds fail to fire, evan after many hammer strikes.


I have allready call rem and they are going to test them and see whats wrong with them and hopefully send a new box of ammo.
 
sorry to hear that. sounds like you got a bad box. may have been stored wrong.

you may also have a problem with your weapon. im not sure how much force it takes to set off the primer, but it seems possible to have enough to leave a mark on the primer without having enough to detonate it. that would indicate a problem with your firearm.

the wording indicates you are using a tested lower, though, so i would think its most likely the ammo. go buy another box and see how it runs.
 
yes the lower as never failed on the many barrels that have been on it. I think it is a bad box of ammo but it could be the new barrel have to get some more ammo and try them to see. just trying to see what it likes rightnow.
 
had the same problem on a box of remington 12 guage pheasant loads last year. maybe the remington primers aren't the hottest. completely ruined a rather expensive trip. i used core locks for years no problem but i am shying away from remington as of late.
 
I vote for bad primers. I had a problem with Remington primers, 9 1/2’s, a few months ago. Out of 20 rounds 10 misfires. Wouldn’t go off after several tries either. Called Remington and got a song and dance about how I must have seated them wrong while reloading.

I’ve been reloading about 60 years and this was only the second time I ever had a primer failure and the first time for multiple failures. I kinda don’t think it was an error on my part.

Remington has had a rash of problems with guns so I guess that ammo problems are to be expected. Too bad, but no more Remington products for me.
 
I've never heard of 6 outta 20 commercial loads not firing. I'd say all the years I've been shooting I could count on one hand the number that didn't fire when the rifle did everything its supposed to. It's always been 1 at a time for me.
 
Try another brand of ammo. If it happens again you might have a bad headspace on the barrel. It is rare but the headspace is critical to get the firing pin into the primer.
 
Its really sad becouse I used to be a big fan/supporter of remington but as of the last couple years its getting real hard to defend them.
 
bama your telling me i use to only shoot rems but nowadays i only have three sp10s and a 870 slug gun anything that gets shot much is something that i can trust now
 
big al im going to try some hornadys and SSAs and if it happens again i guess the barrel goes back to T/C and i'll see about a replacement
 
6 out of 20 seems like an awful lot. Does this brand of ammo have a particularly hard primer? Trying some new ammo will definitely help you get to the bottom of things. But my guess is that you're going to find it's the gun, not the ammo. Keep us posted.
 
It's a headspace issue which is not uncommon on this platform. The factory stuff is sized to run in an AR and the shoulders are back a bit on factory loads. Certain calibers are sensitive to shoulders in TC bbls. I had a 35 Rem I used to shoot silouhettes with that I had to neck size only or had these issues.
 
A reloader/shooter called me from the range and repeated the same story, the rifle was a new Ruger 30/06, 5 out of 20 did not fire after two attempts and an additional 2 attempts in other rifles, I told them to call Remington, it was more fashionable to blame the ammo manufactures, the owner of the new Ruger gave the 20 rounds, to a friend, he came over that afternoon, with out the box with the numbers necessary to trace, so, we pulled the failed to fire cases down and checked the components, absolute precision with weight and measurements, we punched the primers and saved them, we checked the cases with chamber gages and case gages, we compared the cases that were fired wirh the cases that did not fire, the fired cases seated in my chamber gage with no more than thumb pressure, we then seated the primers that had been hit 5 times in three other rifles and chambered them in one of my M1917s and fired each one, all 5 primers fired with the first primer strike. What can I say, without the lot number on the box no conclusion can be drawn other than my M1917s are not timid about hitting the primer, not new primers, a good case could be made for the primers that were crushed in my M1917 could be called used primers.

As in local superstition, the primer did not accelerate to a speed that allowed the case to outrun the firing pin meaning the fining pin crushed the primer before the case knew it's little buddy was hit, and the primer did not protrude, no powder, no bullet.

As in the 'usual suspects', the owner of the rifle and new ammo, no information on contact was gathered at the range.

F. Guffey
 
Head space and guessing, the same reloader/shooter told me I was wrong, he built 5 magnificent rifles using 5 magnificent unissued 03A3 Remington rifles chambered in 7mm06 modified/improved chambers with a home made reamer. When he fire formed cases for his first creation 4 of 10 cases had had case head separation, I saved my self a lot of time by explaining to him Hatcher is the source of the confusion, he had a hypothesis, had he picked a different rifles he would have been correct, instead he picked the wrong rifle and you picked the correct rifle, for his hypotheses.

And the cases were new, explain that? An old superstition when using new cases you can get away with anything IF the wildcatter knows what he is doing, I explained to my friend had I been at his shop before he left for the range I could have told him if the cases would form to the chamber or separate, I informed him after he got to the range I could have told him how to correct the case head separation after the first separation.

I have absolutly no ideal what it would be like to purchase ammo for a rifle and not know what effect the new ammo would have on offsetting head space or not know how the case would be effected by the (head space 0f) chamber when fired.

F. Guffey
 
thanks for all the info guys kept it comeing if u have any ideals on this

ill let u know what rem says when i hear from they
 
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