America as a police state?

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Great, thanks alot pal. I was going to look for a Mac-10 carbine to buy but now I'm thinking about getting a semi-auto M60E4!:rolleyes:

But seriously, I don't know if I can believe that video. There might be some truth to what they are saying but I don't know much about .gov and banking and all that.
 
Interesting and compelling, but I still can't swallow it. For some reason, it just seems a little TOO convincing.

Cheers,
Wolfe.
 
Lotta hype in there.
Unfortunately, a lot more truth than hype.

I think that many of these types of messages get it wrong because they try to "humanize" the face of evil around us. They want it to be identifiable as 'These Bankers", "These Politicians", etc. They paint it as a well orchestrated cabal....and lose the audience in the process...."'nothing to see here. 'nother Tin Foil Hat with a camera".

Rather, what they need to pursue is the fact that Bureaucracies (all of them) are as chaotic as groups of individuals....but what each seeks is its own continued survival and growth. Each is very much a Life Form. Little wonder that a series of Executive, Judicial and Legislative Bureaucracies would perpetrate and perpetuate the myths of unapportioned taxes, worthless paper and a Federal Reserve System. Each of these started with baby steps; nobody thought they were bending the rules too much; and so it's been with every generation of bureaucrat since- they only ask a "little more", to assure their future, their job and their Agency.

This is the nature of Bureaucracy on all levels, I think. Various Bureaucracies need not walk lockstep to some vague PuppetMaster's tune. They need no Master Plan. But the future growth and survival of each is a zero sum gain....someone has to pay for it. And, in the end, there is no one from whom to take additional Power or Money other than the constituents which it "serves".

I think this was the concern of Jefforson and others who embraced the concept of "friendly competitor" States. They knew that anything on a Federal level would become "evil" and wished to limit that growth to "necessary evils". No tax authority; no standing army; no central bank....stuff like that.
Rich
 
Point in fact, not all of our tax dollars go to pay the interest on the Federal defecit, but it's solidly in the top 3.
And I could have collected an easy 50 grand.
http://uscode.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode26/usc_sec_26_00007201----000-.html

Nevertheless, the claims leveled about the Federal reserve are all true. I thought everybody knew.

The charges leveled against George W. Bush; all true.

The charges leveled against Bill Clinton: all true.

This country is on the fast-track to becoming a police state. That ain't tin-foil, it's an objective fact.
 
And I could have collected an easy 50 grand.
Fat chance; it is a trick question. Amazingly, the guy even puts a link on his website to a federal court decision against someone who tried to collect the reward.

"$50,000 Reward is offered to anyone who can show me the following ..." (emphasis added by the court). The court said that the guy "... made himself the sole arbitor of the sufficiency of any answer tendered."
 
well we know that national id was passed and the part about tha fed. bank and i remember reading something about the rfid in poular science pleese some one just pleese tell me im just parinoid or should i just go out and buy as much ammo as i can for all my firearms and canned food etc. to be prepared?
 
Yep-sure is the U.S.A.,its military and economic power is being used to bring about a one world government spoken of by the prophet Daniel and Revelations.An attempt to raise up the old roman empire.Peace and harmony at gun point.It will fail and end with four ought of every five human beings on the planet dead.Look to see the start of the use of nuclear weapons sometime around sept.12th.
 
I read some stuff that said Aug 06 is a red letter day also. It's the 60th anniversary of hiroshima & nagasaki. Supposedly OBL wants to detonate two nukes on us on that date, in the daytime, so the whole world can see the images of mushroom clouds over American cities..

Supposedly the two nukes are already here, having been smuggled up from Mexico.
 
Edward###### said:
I read some stuff that said Aug 06 is a red letter day also. It's the 60th anniversary of hiroshima & nagasaki.
You got a link to that 'stuff?' Or is it just another unfounded rumor?

Also, Nagasaki was bombed on August 9, not August 6.
 
I hope and pray people take this more seriously. After MUCH research on all these issues and more (For the last few years now) , I have no doubt 90% of what is being said in this and MANY other documentaries about the FED is true.

Many don't realize it was the banks that caused the great depression and it was done on purpose and it's being done again ... right now.

We are going to see very tough times in the next decade across America that many will have no clue how to insulate themselves against.

Many people are going to lose their homes as the fleecing of America starts.
 
You got a link to that 'stuff?' Or is it just another unfounded rumor?

No I do not. I forget where I read that. Of course everythings a rumor until it goes bang. They didn't threaten us with that Aug 06 date or the two nukes. This was speculation from the author of that piece. Thet love using dates that are sentimental in one way or the other. Having two nukes is (supposedly) not a rumor and that statement did have a link to an article where I read that OBL bought a bunch of the Soviet Unions old hardware when they collapsed the Union. Including two nukes, some dirty bombs, and a lot of other assorted nasty stuff.

At this point, yeah, it's just a rumor. It's been a while since they've hit us and lets face it, they're going to again. Only a matter of when and not if. I posted that just for peoples perusal so that people can decide for themselves if they want to go visit any big cities on the upcoming red letter dates...

Hey, I hope it's wrong. But Aug 06, 60 yr anniversary of us bombing Hiroshima etc., OBL buying up the old hardware of the S.U...not too much of a stretch for me to go hmmm, and decide to not be in any big cities on that date! or maybe some other red letter days coming up. Fwiw.

So it was Aug 09 for Nagasaki and the 6th for Hiroshima or Aug 09 for both of them? (Think I'll stay home that week regardless.):eek:
 
But Aug 06, 60 yr anniversary of us bombing Hiroshima etc.

61. It was 6 August 1945.

That said, 11 September didn't mean anything. It was apparently an arbitrary date, the stars were right, whatever.
 
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