I carry as my main gun a Walther PP 32. I have tried 1911 Combat Commander's in 45, Makrov's,Bersa 380,Ruger's in 357,Glock's 9mm(except for the small one's do not like em),Kel-Tech 9mm, Model 60 and 10 in a Smith,and also since I love western's even a copy of the Colt model P. Carried everyone of em.But for some reason I keep going back to that old walther. Now I shoot all of those about the same 3 inches or less standing at 25 feet on head and Groin Shot's.So am I wrong headed about staying with the 32?.
Am I wrong Headed?.
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Gwinnydapooh
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Yes, you are. (Hey, you asked!)
You should have a tactical black tenifer double stack .454 casull/.416 Rigby/20mm convertible Whoozit Inc. Widowmaker. In stainless steel. With night sights.
In my opinion, you are undergunned, but I don't have to carry it, you do. Besides, I don't yet carry a gun so you are MILES ahead of me, if that makes you feel any better.
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Don
"Its not criminals that go into schools and shoot children"
--Ann Pearston, British Gun Control apologist and moron
You should have a tactical black tenifer double stack .454 casull/.416 Rigby/20mm convertible Whoozit Inc. Widowmaker. In stainless steel. With night sights.
In my opinion, you are undergunned, but I don't have to carry it, you do. Besides, I don't yet carry a gun so you are MILES ahead of me, if that makes you feel any better.
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Don
"Its not criminals that go into schools and shoot children"
--Ann Pearston, British Gun Control apologist and moron
Don, you're smokin' that stuff again. *Everyone* knows the Whoozit Widowmaker in .454 Casull is a single-stack! 
Seriously, bookman, if you like the Walther for carry, you might consider moving up to a PPK. .32 just doesn't have the oomph to *reliably* knock down a goblin. But then, neither does .380, IMHO.
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Seriously, bookman, if you like the Walther for carry, you might consider moving up to a PPK. .32 just doesn't have the oomph to *reliably* knock down a goblin. But then, neither does .380, IMHO.
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"The evils of tyranny are rarely seen but by him who resists it."
-- John Hay, 1872
[This message has been edited by Coinneach (edited December 09, 1999).]
Chris Orndorff
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A well-placed .22 is worlds better than a miss with anything else. Just realize that bullet performance (penetration and expansion) is minimal. Don't get a preconceived idea that the BG is gonna drop upon being hit, but that applies to ANY caliber.
Greetings bookman,
A friend owns a Manurhin made Walther PP in .32 ACP. I have shot it with Winchester Silvertip 60 grain hollowpoints. I was amazed at how well I could fire quickly and accurately. Marshall/Sanow found it effective 63% of the time with one center- of- mass hit based on 83 shootings. However, that is a small number of shootings statistically and the actual capability of the round is almost surely lower. "Neither author would rely on this caliber for primary self-defense usage..."
I don't think you are wrong headed though. I would suggest you keep a larger gun close also. Safely stored but accessible. And remember that your .32 auto is a DEFENSIVE gun only. Don't be a hero at the local stop&rob if they only want the money. Let them have it and leave. (Might not be so lucky, however.) Also aim higher on the chest than traditional COM. Imagine a triangle formed by the two nipples and the base of the neck. This will increase your chance of hitting vital organs with such a low penetrating bullet. If you must make a head shot, try for the plane created by the nose, ears, and base of the skull. Tactics are more important than anything else.
A friend owns a Manurhin made Walther PP in .32 ACP. I have shot it with Winchester Silvertip 60 grain hollowpoints. I was amazed at how well I could fire quickly and accurately. Marshall/Sanow found it effective 63% of the time with one center- of- mass hit based on 83 shootings. However, that is a small number of shootings statistically and the actual capability of the round is almost surely lower. "Neither author would rely on this caliber for primary self-defense usage..."
I don't think you are wrong headed though. I would suggest you keep a larger gun close also. Safely stored but accessible. And remember that your .32 auto is a DEFENSIVE gun only. Don't be a hero at the local stop&rob if they only want the money. Let them have it and leave. (Might not be so lucky, however.) Also aim higher on the chest than traditional COM. Imagine a triangle formed by the two nipples and the base of the neck. This will increase your chance of hitting vital organs with such a low penetrating bullet. If you must make a head shot, try for the plane created by the nose, ears, and base of the skull. Tactics are more important than anything else.
Ned Roundtree
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Something is better than nothing. But why you still have the choice, yes my friend you are wrong headed, you are undergunned for a primary gun...sorry, you asked...Please take a moment and find an article about the FBI Miami Shoot Out, that even changed the FBIs mind about what they carry. Lessons learned from real life.
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Puddle Pirate
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Every since I fired that .50BMG, I've felt undergunned, but since noone yet has seen fit to make it available in a ccw handgun I guess I have to deal with it. A .32 is too small IMO, but if you hit and hit well with it, you're definately better off with it than something you're not comfortable with and leave sitting in the safe.
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"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." -Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8.
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"The best we can hope for concerning the people at large is that they be properly armed." -Alexander Hamilton, The Federalist Papers at 184-8.
Glenn E. Meyer
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Remember folk, that more than 90%
of civilian DGUs never fire a shot.
We don't really have good stats on
how many of the remaining 10% of
citizen usage were incidents where
the BG took a round of any caliber
and continued the attack. The M&S
reports are debateable and don't
speak to that issue.
If it is reliable and you like it -
you are better off with it.
That said - I do 38 SPL or 9mm at a
minimum
of civilian DGUs never fire a shot.
We don't really have good stats on
how many of the remaining 10% of
citizen usage were incidents where
the BG took a round of any caliber
and continued the attack. The M&S
reports are debateable and don't
speak to that issue.
If it is reliable and you like it -
you are better off with it.
That said - I do 38 SPL or 9mm at a
minimum