Alternative Ballistic Test Media

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I've messed with ballistics gelatin a little in the past, and even had a dedicated fridge for it. It's a cool medium but it turned out to be too much hassle in the end. It was too expensive to get enough for testing multiple rifle or shotgun rounds in one trip to the range. One shotgun slug and the whole 10 gallon batch would be done for the day. Remelting took a whole day and when it froze it was almost impossible to recycle as the water would crystallize out and leave huge pieces of hard gelatin. I think I'm done with ballistics gel as long as I'm too poor to afford a 300lb drum of it.

A few alternatives that we've probably all heard of are wet phonebooks, water jugs, clay, homemade play-doh, pork roasts or dead pigs, some special waxes, and that very expensive Perma-Gel. Of course all of these are out of the question for most serious testing for various reasons whether they be limited practical availability, poor consistency for a tissue simulant, poor visibility of results without a high-speed camera, etc.

I don't believe that good ballistic test media necessarily need to match the exact properties of muscle tissue to be of value; in fact I would argue that ballistics gel would be a better test medium than actual animal carcasses because it is consistent throughout and will give repeatable results allowing accurate comparison between one round and another. Probability plays too much of a role in the non-homogenous structure of an animal and could easily make a lesser round appear to beat a superior one if it did not strike any bones or tendons or just went through different muscles. Of course in real life that probability does come in to play, but the best all-around loads should be found by testing on a variety of barriers/bones/etc placed in front of or inside the same consistent medium and looking at the average results.

With that in mind I think all that is really important is that the medium is consistent, can support its own weight in target-sized blocks or at least some very cheap container, and contains a majority of liquid content with a similar vapor pressure to water so as to exhibit the same cavitation effects. At least some elasticity may or may not be desirable too.

Regardless of the actual differences in penetration, temporary and permanent cavity size in an alternative medium to ballistics gel, it should be possible to come up with correction tables that would be able to correlate the results to gelatin at least for any given projectile type. Obviously in more plastic media the permanent cavity size will be impossible to see, but permanent tissue damage can be estimated at least roughly by the recovered bullet and knowledge of crush cavity size compared to bullet diameter with various geometries.

I am curious as to what if any other media people have tried, and how they worked. I tried the play-doh thing - a cooked mixture of flour, salt, water, and oil, but it is not so easy in the large quantities needed to test rifles and shotgun slugs. My batches came off the stove at a perfect consistency but then turned way too sticky to handle and lost all elasticity some time after it cooled down. I put a lot of hours into trying to cook it more and make it work again but no luck. I suspect that it got too cold during a trip to the range and the salt crystallized making it very hard to reconstitute.

I think, though, that I may have hit on a good one now. It is made of cellulose blow-in insulation, the kind that is made from ground up newspaper, soaked in calcium chloride brine as an antifreeze with similar physical properties to plain water. So far my shots into this medium have demonstrated too great of expansion, as if shot into straight water. Also the penetration was slightly high compared to gelatin, but not outlandish. The medium as-is also requires containment with tarps or such so as to not explode, but this is trivial as it does actually support itself with the open cavity if it is wrapped. It is somewhat over-saturated making handling tricky and I think that straining it out to a lower brine content may improve all of these problems at once. The medium is certainly dirt cheap, fairly consistent, and relatively easy to reconstitute after each shot.
 

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I don't see the use in testing bullets in anything except ordnance gelatine or something proven to be just like it - like the Corbin gel, that is calibrated with a BB just like in the FBI protocol.

People shoot water jugs and wet phone books, etc.. and it doesn't give me any useful information about the round.

And then they post the results on YouTube or to forums. They must find it fun and interesting and perhaps they fool themselves into beleiving that they are gleaning important information about the round, but those tests don't provide me with any useful information.
 
A lot of people do it just for fun and I've read a few articles where people went to great lengths to perform tests that don't seem to show much useful information (just penetration, etc). I suspect though that a variety of test media can be scientifically compared to gelatin using correction factors, and if it can I hope to establish them. This would be done by comparing the results in the experimental media to published gelatin results for some commercial ammunition types, in order to extrapolate what the gelatin results might be for other ammunition fired into the new medium. Would it be as exacting as ordinance gelatin? Certainly not, but it can be a comparative tool just as gelatin can (what more than that is it, anyway?). Even gelatin is not that accurate especially at extremes; I have blown a calibrated block of gelatin to pieces with a Remington Buckhammer which certainly would not blow a similarly sized animal torso to pieces because muscle is far stronger and more elastic than gelatin. It only indicated that the temporary stretch cavity might be larger than the block.

I think the most useful question answered by such testing is "does the bullet behave as expected when entering aqueous media?" Like does it expand properly at a wide range of velocities, or after penetrating barriers such as wood or sheet metal? Even water jugs can answer that if you have enough to trap the bullet, and in real world scenarios minor differences in expansion and penetration are trivial especially with good shot placement.
 
Not my area of expertise, but it has been noted* that none of those tests involving water jugs, clay, phonebooks, or ballistic gelatin (emphasis added) give you a realistic idea of how a bullet will act on a mammal. They're great for comparing apples-to-apples between various loads, but pretty worthless for predicting their use in hunting, warfare, or SD.

* e.g., Chuck Taylor, Combat Handgunnery
 
Duncan MacPherson devised a formula for normalizing results among gel blocks that didn't pass calibration.

My understanding is that the FBI would toss a block that didn't fall within calibration parameters, but that's a lot of work making extra blocks. I know the Firearms Tactical Institute uses MacPherson's when they have a BB under or over-penetrate rather than toss the block.

it has been noted* that none of those tests involving water jugs, clay, phonebooks, or ballistic gelatin (emphasis added) give you a realistic idea of how a bullet will act on a mammal. They're great for comparing apples-to-apples between various loads, but pretty worthless for predicting their use in hunting, warfare, or SD.

I believe this is half-right. How a bullet reacts in ordnance gel is not going to predict exactly how a bullet is going to react in any kind of shooting. But this is due more to the nature of the universe than due to using any test media. If you chronograph 5 rounds out of a box of ammo, you will probably get 5 different readings and the five are not going to accurately predict the velocity of the sixth.

I don't think test results in ordnance gel are worthless for predicting their effectiveness in stopping a human. The FBI doesn't believ that either or ordnance gel wouldn't factor into decisions that potentially affect the lives of agents - like what caliber weapon to issue.

I believe that there is a general correlation that can be shown that rounds that penetrate 12 to 14" in ordnance gel under a variety of conditions like light to heavy clothing - are going to do well in stopping attackers.

So many things fall along a bell curve. Are you going to have those statistical outflyers where someone gets hit with a .22 and drops dead? Yes - Trooper Mark Coates. Are there going to be people who suck up a bunch of 40 cals and keep attacking - yes. But generally, if you have a round that penetrates 12 to 14 inches it can be expected to perform well - given good shot placement.
 
C0untZer0 (or should we call you Bobby? ;)):

The examples given in the book I cited showed marked difference in expansion, with the same round that did a textbook mushroom in gel, being hardly deformed if at all when used on game. Again, it's not my area of expertise, so I'm just passing along what I read. See "Velocity and Bullet Expansion" (pp. 63-69) in Taylor, The Gun Digest Book of Combat Handgunnery: A Guide to Self-Defense Shooting, 4th Edition. Iola WI: DBI Books, 1997.
 
People shoot water jugs and wet phone books, etc.. and it doesn't give me any useful information about the round.

And then they post the results on YouTube or to forums. They must find it fun and interesting and perhaps they fool themselves into beleiving that they are gleaning important information about the round, but those tests don't provide me with any useful information.
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Perhaps if you were to ever be attacked by a phone book, water jug, or something like that, you would need that information. :D

Very interesting topic and points.
 
I don't think test results in ordnance gel are worthless for predicting their effectiveness in stopping a human.

I wouldn't say it is worthless. However, from what I have read in various places it isn't great. A block of ordnance gel basicaly simulates the human thigh at best. It really isn't giving you much insight about what will happen when the bullet gets in to the torso and starts encountering multiple tissue and muscle densityss at the same time.
 
No one but the Mythbusters seem to take bones into account. People have bones, rib cages and so on. Ballistic gel does not. Why don’t people take bones into account??
 
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