Alan Keyes . . .

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This is from the Alan Keyes 2000 e-mail updates:

3. Keyes turns racist attack into teaching moment
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Note: Ambassador Keyes this week released the following article on www.WorldNetDaily.com in response to a nationally distributed piece by
Bill Maxwell, widely condemned in the conservative press as a racist
attack. Mr. Maxwell's article ran as recently as this week in the San
Francisco Examiner.
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"Masters of the dream" - by Alan L. Keyes


Several weeks ago I caused something of a stir by suggesting that the
reason the media consistently fail to report the true strength of public
support that a certain conservative black presidential candidate receives
is that the media simply have no mental category for black
conservatives -- it just doesn't "compute" that there could be such a
thing. Racism, I pointed out, has less to do with malice than with
prejudice, with the superficial categorization of people into convenient
packages. Liberal inability even to consider the possibility of a black
conservative speaks volumes about the superficiality of liberalism itself.


These thoughts are on my mind again because of a newspaper column first
appearing in the Dec. 8 St. Petersburg Times, and since reprinted
nationally, written by a certain Mr. Bill Maxwell. The topic of the
article was the impossibility of the existence of a principled black
conservative. As you can imagine, it was a bit odd to read a proof of my
own non-existence. I want to put before you several of the comments Mr.
Maxwell makes about black Republicans -- not because he is speaking of me,
of course, but because the whole column is such a remarkable piece of
unbridled bigotry and superficial dismissal that it captures, in one
pungent whiff, the attitude I was suggesting that can be found quite
generally, if a bit more diluted, in the mainstream media.


Mr. Maxwell says that black Republicans are "perhaps the strangest" of all
the "creatures whose compositions or habits or appearances defy our sense
of logic and our way of viewing reality." "Some blacks," he says, "like
Gen. Powell, become Republicans because they see clear political advantage
or because they work for Republicans." Such servility is a relatively high
motive, apparently, compared to what motivates most black Republicans, who
are "mean-spirited self-loathers who rarely find anything positive to say
about fellow blacks." Mr. Maxwell concludes his article by saying that
"black Republicans delude themselves into believing that they alone are
responsible for their success."


Permit me to set the record straight. Just because we black Republicans
rightly regard big government welfare and racial preference schemes as new
forms of bondage and dependency does not mean that we take credit for the
sacrifices and achievements of our forbears.


The story of black Republicans -- and, indeed, the best and most
characteristic theme of the entire black experience in America -- is the
story of an escape from bondage into the light of truth and the freedom
that comes with truth. I call black Americans the masters of the American
dream. But we are not masters of the material prosperity that is commonly
understood to be the American dream. Instead, forced by the awful material
circumstances we faced during most of the first three centuries of
American civilization, black Americans became masters of the true American
dream of moral dignity.


Caught in the solid vise of laws ensuring their servitude, our ancestors
knew that there was little hope of physically overpowering the slave
system. But by developing their own virtues and discipline, they prevented
slavery from totally overpowering them. While the slave system attacked
the idea of the black family, enslaved blacks cherished it. While the
slave system denied them education, enslaved blacks valued it highly, and
sought it indefatigably. While the slave system sought to abuse their
sexuality for profit and secret gratification, enslaved blacks struggled
to respect the emotional bonds it forged between black men and women.
Always, as their first step in defending against the system that abused
them, they rejected the materialist calculation it applied to them, and as
they did so, they naturally tended to discover and rediscover the true
springs of happiness and dignity that God implants in all men. By
heroically taking initiative to assert their own interior standards of
worth against the slave-owners external impositions, black America's slave
ancestors prepared a legacy of moral strength and discipline. This moral
patrimony enabled their externally free descendents first to endure a
century of legal discrimination in quiet dignity, and then to wage the
successful public struggle for civil rights.


As a system of moral calculation, slavery was the ultimate form of
economic determinism. It rested on the assumption that blacks had no value
except their economic value. They were worth only what they could fetch on
the auction block. The key to rejecting the moral logic of slavery was to
reject this economic determinism, and to substitute for it a logic of life
based on the intrinsic worth of each human being in the eyes of God. The
ethical tenets of Christianity provided the ideal basis for this
alternative moral understanding. It was accordingly no accident that,
however much the enslavers tried to pervert Christianity into a dogma of
mindless obedience to authority, blacks themselves perceived and developed
its revolutionary antislavery implications. First in songs, then in
sermons, and finally, in public speeches and tracts, they made the point
that if all men belong to God, none can legitimately be owned by another.


The rejection of the slavery system of moral calculation was the key to
the survival of black self-esteem, despite the degrading vicissitudes of
life in bondage. No matter how thoroughly people were deprived in material
terms, an act of kindness, courage, or simple compassion could signal
their true worth. Moral dignity requires no equipment beyond the will to
do what is right. Even if we fail, the goodwill and faith revealed in the
attempt certify the quality of our lives. No matter how great the physical
power that another has over us, we can always preserve our moral autonomy
and with it, our self-respect.


The Christian ethical system made it possible for enslaved people to
understand that true freedom, moral freedom, was something their captors
could not take away. For the enslaved man or woman, the moment of real
personal emancipation came with the willingness to assume moral
responsibility for their own actions, when they realized that, even in
bondage, it was up to them to decide between good and evil. The process of
Christian spiritual rebirth represented this moment of insight in
religious terms. In order to be born again in baptism and received into
the Church, individuals had to recognize and come to terms with their own
moral capacity. They had to reject the slave system's implied link between
material condition and intrinsic worth. They had to realize that, before
their most important judge, their status, their eternal destiny, depended
on their own choices and His loving grace, and was not a necessary
consequence of their enslaved condition.


Against the economic determinism of the slave system, in which the worth
of a man was simply what he could be sold for, the enslaved blacks
asserted the idea of the intrinsic worth and personal moral autonomy
embodied in the Christian worldview. Of course, in the context of the
American Revolution and its aftermath, this assertion had a powerful
secular counterpart. The theory of unalienable rights and government by
consent of the governed on which the American Declaration of Independence
was based translated key Christian ethical precepts into the concepts and
language of political discussion. The idea of intrinsic worth became the
self-evident truth that all human beings are created equal. The idea of
moral autonomy became the key principle of self-government -- that is, to
be legitimate, government must be based upon the consent of the governed.


These ideas informed the course of black American history from the time of
Frederick Douglas, through Emancipation and the century that followed.
They culminated in the statesmanship of Martin Luther King, which
epitomized the moral wisdom of the black-American tradition. But after the
first great victories over the legal and political structures of racial
injustice, black leaders shifted their attention to the economic plight of
the black community in a way that implicitly accepted the fundamental
premise of the slavery system -- the idea that economic status determines
the quality and worth of human life.


By accepting this idea in the middle of the 20th century, black leaders
surrendered the key bastion of black survival in America. The black
American tradition, deeply rooted in Christian ethical principles,
supported the ability to resist the materialistic prejudices that could
damage black self-esteem and corrode the sense of moral responsibility.
Abandoning that tradition, liberal black leadership has delivered blacks,
and especially poor blacks, into the hands of a government-dominated
social-welfare network. Self-help and self-control were supplanted by
governmental "pork" -- "fatback," as our ancestors would have called it.
Equality under the law was replaced by a network of demeaning preferences
under affirmative action.


This system, like slavery, has demanded as the price of admission that
blacks surrender to ideology based on economic determinism. The
consequence of racial political patronage, morally illiterate welfare, and
the economic drug of set-asides, has been that a large segment of the
black community appears to belong to a permanent underclass composed of
inferior human beings who are in no position to take responsibility for
their own decisions and actions. The so-called black leadership has
exchanged the slave plantation for the handouts-and-preferences
plantation, and our people are tempted to lapse into a softer, but
spiritually deadly, servitude.


It is from this plantation that black Republicans seek freedom. But many
of us who stray from it become incomprehensible -- invisible -- to the
liberal media.


Mr. Maxwell finds it incomprehensible that a black American could make
such a choice to leave the plantation. He is blind not only to black
conservatives and the reasons that lead to their political choices. He is
blind as well to the chains that still are wrapped around so many souls of
those still on the plantation. It is deeply sad to see liberal America
unable even to consider the possibility that black men and women will
choose to pursue lives of moral integrity in accord with the deepest
principles of revealed truth, human nature, and the great founding
principles of the American republic.


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4. Keyes speaks out on South Carolina Flag


January 8, 2000


Columbia, South Carolina -- Alan Keyes responds to questions on Hardball
with Chris Matthews.


Matthews: "This whole fight over the state, over the old confederate flag
that's flying over the capitol in Columbia there, what do you make of that
fight? I didn't hear you say much tonight on it. What is your stand on
that fight?"


Keyes: "Well, I made a comment on it afterwards though because I thought
that two things are true. First, it is right what Governor Bush said, that
this is up to the people of South Carolina. Without any doubt, I say that
all the time myself. But at the same time, I think that when we address
this issue, we have to be clear that it must be done with a sense of
understanding for the feelings on both sides of the issue. The pride that
some take in that flag and it's history, but also the sense that many
black Americans have, that it was abused as a symbol of racism and
lynching and violence against blacks that evokes great fear and anxiety
and very painful memories. I thought that GW Bush showed no understanding
whatsoever of that sensitivity of black Americans tonight and I was indeed
shocked by that. And I tell you, I think that when addressing an issue
like this, you must show understanding for the feelings on both sides, I
have made every effort to do it myself. Tonight, he did not make that
effort and I think that that was too bad."


Matthews: "Let me ask you the same question that Brian Williams put to
him, the governor of Texas. What is your visceral reaction to the sight of
the Confederate battle flag on the Capitol building in South Carolina?"


Keyes: "See, I know a lot about that flag though, so my visceral reaction
is different. I know that that flag was not the symbol of slavery and
oppression. It was the battle flag, that was actually the symbol of the
blood sacrifices of many soldiers of the south who weren't just fighting
for slavery, but for their homes and their families and their states. I
understand the pride that people can take in that flag on that account. I
also know as a black American, though, that it was a flag abused by the Ku
Klux Klan and by the vigilantes and by the people who were lynching my
ancestors and intimidating people. And so I understand the fear and
anxiety and pain that black Americans feel when they see it. And in that
mode, I believe every time we address it, we must urge people to see the
feelings on both sides, and to seek reconciliation. Not to seek to score
political points, which I think GW Bush was doing tonight."


Matthews: "A candidate for the Republican nomination, the nomination for
the party of Lincoln, you're saying, should be sensitive and
representative of all the feelings of all the constituents of his
country."


Keyes: "That's exactly right. We must speak to people as Americans. What I
often say to people is, you know the flag that was the symbol of slavery
on the high seas for a long time was not the confederate battle flag, it
was sadly the stars and stripes. If through our sacrifice and history, we
can turn the stars and stripes into what it is today, a symbol of liberty
and freedom, then I think we should remind ourselves that through our
common work and common effort and common commitment to American moral
principle, we can make any flag a symbol of decency and cooperation. It's
the reconciliation that matters most. It's the common American heart that
matters most. Not the piece of cloth that is the symbol."
 
The more I learn about this man, the more I like him. I don't think that the media gives him much of a chance though, and because of that, he doesn't have much of a chance.

I'll be voting for either him or a Libertarian in the primaries (if I can). We'll see when November rolls around who is left to choose from.

I'd love to see Alan Keyes as Vice President.


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RKBA!

"The people have the right to bear arms for their defense and security"
Ohio Constitution, Article I, Section 4
Concealed Carry is illegal in Ohio.
Ohioans for Concealed Carry Website
 
When is the last time we've heard a candidate for ANY office talk this eloquently
and without pat-on-the-head inanities?

I've dropped the "Bush for President" people the idea of Keyes for VP. As with my other of my emails to them, I suspect they read it with great interest and marvelled at my perceptiveness. :)

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We don't have a Libertarian primary here so I will vote in the Republican primary - for Keyes.

If nothing else, it will show the Republicans what American gun owners have in mind. And the Republicans, if they EVER want to be considered something other than imitation Democrats, danged well better listen.
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This political thread will now be switched from the General Forum to the Legal/Political forum.


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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!
 
The Keyes for VP idea is excellent. I hate to say it but he has zero chance of success in a run for the presidential spot, we have to face that fact. But, the VP slot would be a very viable step to the presidency. More people than ever would be able to hear his level headed thinking throughout the 4 or 8 years and then - who knows? Could happen.
 
Hmmm. A Bush/Keyes Pres/VP ticket.

Heh, heh. It *might* be worth it just to watch Keyes push GW into real politics!

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Either you believe in the Second Amendment or you don't.
Stick it to 'em! RKBA!
 
Keyes for VP seems like a brilliant choice from my perspective. I hope the Republicans make an inspired choice like that, instead of another bozo Republican that gets the nod only because he has put in his / her time with the GOP.
 
You know, I'm an honest to God, card carryin' Libertarian, but Alan has got everything a libertarian could want ( minimum 8th grade education, and an IQ of at least 80 ) He knows the difference between rights and Priveledges, he knows that rights are balanced by responsibilities, and so he gets my vote in the primaries. It is a sad day when people are voting for the likely candidate instead of the best man. Isn't this a bit backwards? I have seen numerous times people saying that since Bush is the only one who can win, then they will vote for Bush, but they sure would rather have Keyes. Then DAMNIT vote for Keyes. There are still EXCELLENT statesmen out there. I just thought Texas had a monopoly until Keyes (I'm not talking about GW). If anyone is living in the 14th congressional district of Texas, e-mail me so we can help get another thinker reelected: RON PAUL!
 
kjm, if you can get Ron to run again, I'll be your lackey forever.

He won't do it. He's flat-out refused, and after the thrashing he took in '88, I don't blame him. It's too bad, because of all the people in this country, he's undoubtedly the best for the job.



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-- Samuel Johnson
 
Keyes is brilliant.

Too bad the media has him so well hiden that most folks don't even know who he is.

He's got my vote in the primary.

Question: What are the realistic chances of Keyes being tapped for VP? Comments?

CMOS

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Coineach, Ron Paul is in the House of Representatives, I know he refuses to run again for president, and to tell you the truth, I don't want him there. I want him as the other Senator. I wouldn't mind seeing him replace Phil Gramm. It's too late to replace Kay Bailey Hutchison. Ron Paul has been my hero for quite some time, and I have volunteered to work in his campaign this year. I live about 140 miles from his district, but when you have such an excellent man in office, any office, you help him stay there. I was most impressed with how many times he is the lone dissenting vote in the congress on some feel-good bill. That includes Dems and Repubs. He is living proof that Washington doesn't have to corrupt you. He has also rejected his Congressional pension, and was the only Congressman who handed back unspent money from his budget last year ($70,000). If you live close to his district, then e-mail me and I'll put you in contact with his campaign.
 
CMOS, good question on Keyes' chances on being nominated as Veep. I think it will increase if he is able to continue his performances throughout the debates. Additionally, the grassroots word of mouth campaign must grow to make him known to those not watching. Any time I mention Keyes to people they aways say "Who?" I suggest they watch a debate, or read the text of his speeches/debates(I give them copies) and afterwards they always say, WOW! This includes democrats. They may not agree with him stands but they acknowledge he is not the status quo. There is momentum building for him. It's hard to hear the truth he speaks pierce through all the other rhetoric and not be affected by it. His time may not be now, but the swell is building. He has my families support financially, and prayerfully. He is the only one speaking the truth.

Will the establishment choose him over someone politically correct? Probably not at this time, but there is still time left.

Chris..
 
Maybe the veil is starting to lift. Sounds good coming from the kids.
http://gr.mlive.com/election/index.ssf?/election/stories/20000111keyes.frm

Keyes (yes, Keyes) wins the battle of perception, takes 2nd in student straw poll
by Ted Roelofs and Dave Murray

The Grand Rapids Press
Tuesday, January 11, 2000

If gut reactions and straw polls mean anything, George W. Bush might feel OK about Monday's GOP showdown at Calvin College.
An informal tally of 76 Calvin College student Republicans just after the debate gave Bush the nod with 43 percent. That's no shock, given the wide lead the Texas governor enjoys in the polls.
The real surprise?
That would be political unknown Alan Keyes, who tallied 29 percent in the poll which asked which candidate students would support for president. That bested the third place tally of 21 percent for Arizona Sen. John McCain, who is widely regarded as the chief rival for Bush.
Conservative activist Gary Bauer rated 5 percent and publisher Steve Forbes 1 percent and Utah Sen. Orrin Hatch, 0.
"I thought Keyes really laid it on the line tonight," said Calvin College sophomore Terrence Ganka, one of 230 students who watched the debate in person.
"I think a lot of us are looking for someone who is really gutsy, not to take a popular stance but who is willing to take a chance," Ganka said.
Though many thought Bush held his own, Ganka was one of many impressed by the passion, moral fire and oratorical skills of Keyes, former ambassador to the United Nations.
Calvin College freshman Aaron Smith entered the college Fine Arts Center with an open mind, maybe even looking for reasons to support Bush. He wound up liking Keyes and Bauer.
"I was looking forward to Bush, but I was not impressed by his petty squabbles with Forbes," Smith said. "I was impressed by Keyes."
Those who watched the debate in their living rooms offered a similar range of views.
Cathy Meyers watched in her southwest Wyoming home, and reaffirmed her assessment of the front-runner.
The operative word here is "presidential."
"I liked Bush's manner, the way he responded to questions. He was very calm," the Wyoming real estate agent said. "He does strike that image, yes, as someone that is capable of having the manner, the attitude, the fortitude for the job."
Business owner Mike DeVries was most impressed by Bauer after watching the debate in his Grand Rapids Township home.
"I kind of felt like Bush wanted to fluff stuff," DeVries said. "Bauer seemed willing to take on the tough issues."
DeVries applauded Bauer's questioning of Bush for his support for continuing trade relations with China.
"It takes a lot of guts to do that in a debate," DeVries said.
For some students watching the debate, the biggest cheers of the night didn't go to one of the candidates, but to Joshua Gabrielese.
Gabrielese is a fellow Calvin student, the first of several to have their questions to candidates read by debate moderator Tim Russert of NBC.
His question -- about whether candidates would back away from negative ads -- was cheered, but the answer from candidate Forbes drew groans.
About 250 students gathered at the Spoelhof Center to watch the debate projected on a screen, then participate in a discussion led by professors Garth Pauley and Corwin Smidt.
Students asked the professors why Bauer, Keyes and Hatch seemed to lean to the conservative side of the party, yet weren't doing well in the national polls.
Smidt, a political science professor, said candidates in the primaries tend to work toward the extremes of their parties -- the folks more likely to vote -- then work back toward the center once they have the nomination, where they believe the majority of the voters are.
"Keyes and Hatch, they're worried about winning the nomination, not the election at this point," he said. "The front-runners aren't going to take those risks."
In the crowd gathered outside the Fine Arts Center, it was hard to find much enthusiasm for either Forbes or Hatch.
Said Calvin junior Jim Overbeek: "I didn't think Steve Forbes has much good to say after watching this. My choice now would be down to Bush or McCain."
Overbeek thought Bush performed reasonably well, though he objected at times to his manner.
"Sometimes he would seem a little defensive, almost a cockiness," he said.
But St. Clair Shores resident William Nearon found what he was looking for in Bush.
"Alan Keyes came off as probably the most spirited. Bush probably came off as the most presidential. It pretty much solidified my thinking on Bush," Nearon said.
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There's a message board you can voice your opinion. I started one there called "Keyes for VP" but haven't seen it pop up yet.
http://gr.mlive.com/forums/newstalk/newstalk.ssf


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I've also sent a message to the Bush group to consider Alan Keyes as their VP candidate. I also told them to forget about Dole.

Write! Make your voice be heard. I believe that Keyes would be an excellent VP.
 
kjm, I also sent Ron Paul some campaign funds (not in his district either).

That man is a hero, and Klinton HATES him.

CMOS


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Long, but interesting --

Here's another gem -- the guy is priceless!
And, a provacative title, and, idications that keyes' momentum is picking up.
http://www.originalsources.com/OS1-00MQC/1-11-2000.1.html

Did the Michigan Debate Hint at Bush-Keyes Ticket?

Even When Keyes Responds to George Bush's Statement - No One Notices
By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Sources (www.originalsources.com)

January 11, 1999

The polls after the Michigan debate among the six Republican candidates again show Alan Keyes won and, again, the media hardly mentioned his even being IN the debate. Even when he was mentioned, as by the Washington Post, the quote was reported in such a manner that the reader would not understand the exchange.

Again the debate was moderated by Tim Russert who, as the self-appointed King-maker, keeps Keyes out of the debate as much as possible. The first opportunity Keyes had to utter a word came when the time was already half-spent, which makes the public's designation of him as the winner of the debate even more remarkable. The question Russert asked pertained to the $300 million Clinton announced he would provide for AIDS in Africa. Russert's statement-question was:

RUSSERT: Before we begin the candidate-to-candidate questioning, I would like to give each candidate the chance to respond to one question, the same question. A debate, discussion today at the United Nations, 13 million people in Africa have died of AIDS. Seven million more will die of AIDS in the next few years. Twenty million human beings dead of AIDS. Should the United States appropriate about $300 million out of its surplus in order to help fight AIDS in Africa?
The other candidates followed Russert's unspoken premise that money would somehow solve the AIDS problem and discussed the money as if it were, indeed, the right approach, provided it actually got to the people it was intended for, which almost never happens in Africa. However, as is often the case, Alan Keyes challenged Russert's shallow premise, which undoubtedly is when Russert tries to keep Keyes out of the debate as much as possible. Keyes' response:


KEYES. You know, I think that one of the things that I'm hearing in this discussion, and it's the premise of your question, I guess, which is typical is that the way you measure compassion is by how much money we're going to throw at some problem, regardless of whether the problem is susceptible to being dealt with with all the money. After all, asking whether we should spend $300 million to cure an incurable disease is kind of an academic point, and you should realize that. Especially when the spread of that disease is rooted in what? Is rooted in a moral crisis. Is rooted in a pattern of behavior that spreads that death because of a kind of licentiousness, not only in Africa, but right here in our own country and around the world. I think that this whole discussion is based on a premise that reveals the corruption of our thought. Money cannot solve every problem. Sometimes we need to look at the moral root of that problem and have the guts to deal with it.
That response not only was not given any recognition in the debate, it was not reported in today's news sources. The first half the debate was on taxes and whether or not George W. Bush did or did not raise them as Governor of Texas and how or why they SHOULD be raised. Yet, when a candidate responded to a money question by challenging the notion that the problem can be SOLVED with money, it seemed to go right over the head not only of Tim Russert, but even the other five candidates.

The fundamental challenge Alan Keyes presented in his very short answer is: "Can the AIDS problem be addressed with money, when it is being caused by the BEHAVIOR of the majority of the people who are getting, and dying of, AIDS? It cannot be. Is it "compassionate" to promise more tax money to be sent to Africa or would it be more compassionate to tell young people the truth - if you are using drugs and exchanging needles with other drug users, or you are sexually active, with many sex partners, whether you are heterosexual or homosexual, you are putting yourself at risk for AIDS and, in America with all its technology, you will probably not live beyond your 40th birthday. If you are an African and do not have access to all the expensive new drugs, you will die 2 to 10 year sooner than that.

Another question Russert asked, trying to tailor the question to the black community to remind Alan Keyes of his place in the scheme of things, was:


RUSSERT. ... How do we deal with at risk children and what do we do to prevent situations like in Detroit, where three out of every four children born in Detroit are born to an unwed mother?
KEYES. I think the best thing that we can do there, and actually it gets back to another point made earlier, we need to encourage marriage. We need to encourage respect for people who are willing to take on their parental responsibilities. And we need to write into our policies and laws approaches that will work with folks who respect the marriage institution and oppose those who want to destroy institutions of marriage by encouraging the radical gay agenda and other things.

It also shocked me a little bit when Gary (Bauer) said he didn't care about the feelings of the father in the Elian Gonzalez case. What are we going to do my friends if we don't start telling fathers that we care about their hearts and that we care about their feelings and that they do have a permanent role in the lives of their children? How are we to get them to meet their responsibilities? I have to take that seriously and I think when we start doing those things we will move in the right direction in terms of making sure that marriage is strong and that children are born to two parents who stay together.

When the candidates asked each other questions, Steve Forbes challenged George Bush with:


FORBES: Now, would you make three pledges tonight? One, will you pledge to preserve the Ronald Reagan plank on life in the Republican platform? Two, will you finally state unequivocally that you'll chose only pro-life judges? And third, will you vow to pick a pro-life running mate?

George W. Bush responded with: BUSH. I'm going to pick a vice president who can be the president. I'll pick judges who strictly interpret the constitution and not use the bench as a legislative, way to legislate. And I will work to keep the Republican Party pro-life. That's what I'm going to do Mr. Forbes and I appreciate your assumption about me being the party nominee.
Ever anxious to foster controversy, not discussion, Tim Russert jumped in and the following exchange took place:

RUSSERT. Mr. Forbes are you satisfied with that answer? FORBES. No, it's a typical hedge. Where's the pledge, not a hedge but a pledge on the running mate, a pledge on judges, a pledge on the platform. Vagueries aren't going to work. We need something specific.

BUSH. I don't know how I can be more clear.

FORBES. Say it.

BUSH. Listen.

FORBES. I'll listen, I'm listening.

BUSH. I don't know how -- I will have a --

FORBES. I'm listening George.

BUSH. No, you're interrupting. I will have a vice president who can become the president. That's the test, Steve. I will have a vice president that agrees with my policy. I'm going to have a vice president that likes me. I can't be any more clear to -- you may not like the answer, but that's my answer. And that is the right answer to give.

RUSSERT. Ambassador Keyes, you have the next question for anyone other than Governor Bush.

KEYES. Well, I have a comment for Governor Bush. I like you George but --

BUSH. That is not going to get you on my short list.

KEYES. And since it's a proven family tradition I will consider you for my vice president.

BUSH. Thank you, yes.

I appreciate the fact that George W. Bush is trying to keep Tim Russert from instigating a bloodbath among the Republican candidates in his answers. Bringing all sides together is, I believe, his operative issue and it needs to happen. However, he didn't seem to comprehend that Keyes was responding to what he had said: "I'm going to have a vice president that likes me." Keyes without a doubt is the quickest thinking and he has the best grasp of issues. In last night's debate his quick repartee to Bush's own statement verbalized on national television what many have been quietly thinking: What about a Bush-Keyes ticket, if the Republicans REALLY want to win? Putting Bush's party support together with Keyes public support of people who are turned off by party politics would give the Republicans a landslide not only for the White House, but in the Congress.

It would, of course, depend on whether or not George W. Bush feels comfortable with a vice-president who thinks faster than he can.

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January 6, 2000
Alan Keyes' Poll Numbers, Fund-Raising Shoot Up
Not too long ago political pros didn't take Alan Keyes' presidential bid seriously. But as the new millennium dawns, it may be a whole new ball game for the GOP White House longshot.
Stellar performances in recent debates have Keyes' fourth-quarter fund-raising numbers up by 75 percent over the previous three months.
And more importantly, for the first time ever a major scientific poll places the black conservative in the top tier of GOP presidential hopefuls.
Zogby International, the only polling outfit to call the 1996 presidential race on the nose, now has Keyes garnering 6 percent support nationally; still firmly in single-digit territory but ahead of magazine publisher Steve Forbes, Sen. Orrin Hatch and former Reagan aide Gary Bauer.
At 55 percent, George W. Bush has a comfortable lead in the latest Zogby match-up. But Sen. John McCain, who's benefited from months of glowing press coverage, is at a mere 12 percent -- just six points ahead of Keyes.
The new Zogby results were released Wednesday night on Fox News Channel's "The O'Reilly Factor."
Considering that Keyes is barely a blip on the mainstream media's radar screen, his dramatically improved numbers make him the new rising star of the GOP presidential sweepstakes. And even before the latest Zogby survey, two earlier Keyes landslides in self-selecting post-debate polling on Dick Morris' "Vote.com" website had Republicans opening their wallets.
Keyes' campaign raised $1.02 million in the fourth quarter last year, nearly twice what it had the quarter before. That, along with his campaign's $800,000 cash-on-hand war chest, means that the former UN Ambassador has the resources to continue his climb up the GOP presidential ladder.

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