Al Gore In VIET NAM

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Received in a private e-mail ... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Having posted a little tickler in last week's Digest about Al Gore's 141 days in Vietnam," The Federalist Editorial Board was inundated with inquiries from Vietnam vets. Most went something like this: "Gore claimed in his convention speech: 'I enlisted in the Army because I knew if I didn't go, someone else in the small town of Carthage, Tennessee would have to go in my place.' Since he wasn't KIA or wounded, how was it that his Army tour was far shorter than all the rest of us?"

Our astute veteran readers took the bait!

Gore's campaign launched a multimillion-dollar ad campaign this week to tell his "life story." The ads will include references to his "service" in Vietnam-however brief. Gore spent less than five months of a typical twelve-month tour in Vietnam. He spent every minute of his "tour" as a "rear-echelon...." (call any combat veteran and they can complete that phrase for you). He was classified as a military journalist after telling recruiters he was a newspaper trainee" (read "copy boy") for the New York Times while a student at Harvard. He was assigned as a Noncombatant "information specialist" to the Army's 20th Engineers Brigade headquarters at Bien Hoa military base near Saigon. Gore's immediate supervisor in Vietnam has confirmed that his posting there came with explicit instructions to baby-sit him and make sure he was never in any danger. That fact notwithstanding, Gore has claimed to the Washington Post that he was "shot at" and "spent most of my time in the field." He later told the Baltimore Sun " pulled my turn on the perimeter at night and walked through the elephant grass and I was fired upon." He has since backed off these exaggerated claims. On May 22, 1971, not five months into his "tour of duty," Gore was given special dispensation and a one-way ticket home to attend divinity school in Nashville. He dropped out of Vanderbilt shortly thereafter.

As for the seven months cut from Gore's tour of duty in Vietnam, we suppose "someone else in the small town of Carthage, Tennessee" had to finish his tour "in his place."

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Has anyone verified the photo as having been taking in Vietnam. The M-16 is interesting, indicative, and ammusing. What really interests me is Weird Al appears to be wearing a field jacket. Was that reasonable?


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Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice. Moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.

Barry Goldwater--1964
 
I can understand a level of cynicism about Gore's Vietnam tour. It was motivated in part to help his father's campaign, and he wasn't exactly in harm's way.

What I don't understand is why Bush gets a free ride -- a completely free ride -- for his one year vacation with the the sons of John Connolly and Lloyd Bentsen in the Air National Guard defending the Texas-Oklahoma border. Why isn't this precisely the kind of corrupt political fix that most people on this board complain about.

And a footnote about Al Gore' trip to VN; he got his marching orders on the day after Christmas -- his father's birthday -- the year his father lost the senate election. Does anybody honestly believe this was anything other than political retribution.
 
Abruzzi,

It's not about who is corrupt or not in Washington, it's about who is least corrupt. Bush has our eyes on him, he's not getting a free ride. If he screws up he will not get our votes another time around, unless he's running against Bill Clinton ;)

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The Alcove

I twist the facts until they tell the truth. -Some intellectual sadist

The Bill of Rights is a document of brilliance, a document of wisdom, and it is the ultimate law, spoken or not, for the very concept of a society that holds liberty above the desire for ever greater power. -Me

Compromising the right position only makes you more wrong.
 
abruzzi, from my understanding in talking with former fighter pilots, the job--even in a no-combat zone--is not exactly risk free. I'm not defending Bush's record in the National Guard, but just pointing out that there were probably as many hazards in flying as Gore risked. Maybe more so, unless you count Gore's paper cuts.

I haven't noticed a lot of your posts here, but suddenly they're all over the board slamming Bush. I'm the nicest guy in the world, so I won't question your motives, but I do have suspicions.


Dick
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abruzzi; The difference is that GWB isn't bragging about all of thr NVA aircraft he shot down. Regarding the photo, I suspect it was not taken in Vietnam solely because of the haircut. There are many more inconsistancies, but the haircut stands out.

There were honorable ways to avoid Vietnam./ Al Gore's daddy wouldnt allow him to avoid serving, but he made it as safe for junior as he could.

GW rolled the dice. So did Dan Quayle. Al Gore and olslick didnt have to.

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You have to be there when it's all over. Otherwise you can't say "I told you so."

Better days to be,

Ed
 
My motives relating to W have nothing to do with guns. They're based solely on the fact that I perceive him to be a light weight of the first order. I considered his nomination an anointing more than anything else. McCain has had a thousand times the preparation in life experience and character for the presidency as Bush. Gore would be better "prepared" if intellectual homework alone were the test, but he has his own flaws which are as conspicuous as Bush's ... and totally unrelated to firearms.
 
abruzzi, with regards to W being a lightweight, remember that he defeated a Deomcratic incumbent in the Governor's race, which ain't an easy task. And he has apparently successfully governed one of the largest states in the union. Texas residents think he's capable and that's a pretty good endorsement. He's won my vote on two of the most important issues (in my eyes): RKBA and breaking the NEA's monopoly on educating our children.
 
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